|i need a job...whats yours and do you really like it||ishmael|
Apr 21, 2002 12:06 PM
|im broke but still picky..ive had a million jobs and only a couple have come up par or above....anyone do anything they particularly think is enjoyable..|
|im planning on teaching...any advice||ishmael|
Apr 21, 2002 12:08 PM
|im almost done my undergrad in history..i was going to do the emergency teaching certification...im also looking for something more temporary|
|Well, there's a wide open question||PaulCL|
Apr 21, 2002 12:44 PM
|I'm what everyone used to call a stockbroker....now we're "financial advisors" or "investment consultants" or...well, you get the picture.
If you can sell. If you are up to meeting older (average age of client about 60) people and impressing them and you can afford to starve for another year or two, it may be the job for you.
Seriously, I like my job. The last two years has royally sucked, but I still like the freedom the job gives. In my business, after the initial few years, you are your own boss. If I don't want to be in the office on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon, I leave. Of course, I don't make any money that afternoon. No paid vacation, no sick days, but no restrictions on whether you want to take a week off or a month (as long as you produce).
Just a thought.....
By the way, everyone in my business did something else before they got into the business. We have lawyers, former pilots, former teachers, a former minister, a former drug rep, a former wholesale liquor salesman,and I went to medical school...go figure??
|where do i sign up||ishmael|
Apr 21, 2002 1:48 PM
|what exactly are these first painful years about, i hope its not school...ive heard that statisticly truck drivers have the highest job satisfaction, cant beat it for freedom so its said...not my thing though, dont like to drive....maybe long distance bicycle delivery though|
|AH...the wonder years||PaulCL|
Apr 21, 2002 2:39 PM
|The first couple of years stink...lots of time on the phone, low pay (unless "Daddy" is CEO of some big company or just plain loaded with cash), lousy hours, going out on appointments, learning the business, quotas, sitting in a 'bullpen', constant competition with your friend in the cubicle next to you. First there is anywhere from 3 to 9 months of training: getting licensed, going to 'class', working with an experience broker (like me). Then you hit the phone....
The idea of my business is to collect assets - convince Mr. Smith to move his 401(k) to you for management, to convince that company to move the entire corporate 401(k) to you, etc.... Someone else usually manages the money: mutual funds, money managers, or you and the client. In the first two years, you have to gather enough assets so that you can live off of the fees/commissions. The fixed salary ends at the end of your second year.
The lack of salary is one hell of a motivator to work hard. Nothing like starting the 1st of the month not knowing if you'll make enough to pay the mortgage. After a few years, that isn't an issue. If you can make it (read: make the quotas, gather the assets) for three years, odds are you will do fine.
If you are in any way sales oriented and financially oriented, I would highly reccommend the business. Send resumes to some local investment firms and go find out. Usually the starting salary for a 'rookie' is around $25m on up depending upon your work experience. Good luck.
|sounds like the job from hell to me||ColnagoFE|
Apr 22, 2002 7:59 AM
|been there and done that...was the sales mgr for a publishing company with the phone permanently attached to my head all day. never again. but then again some people thrive on that. personally i hated calling people and getting them to buy stuff and hounding the sales reps to sell more.|
|That's only the first couple of years||PaulCL|
Apr 22, 2002 10:44 AM
|It weeds out the 'weak' so to speak. I've been in the business for 15 years and I honestly believe that I am a lousy "salesman". After five years or so the 'sales' end fades somewhat and the management/relationship end takes over (leading to referrals, etc...) I haven't made a cold call in years, though I've hired college students to do it for me...regrettfully, the really attractive ones always fail. Bummer.
(OK, that was my one sexist comment for the day)
|re: i need a job...whats yours and do you really like it||empacher6seat|
Apr 21, 2002 2:14 PM
|I've got two jobs! Want one? :P
I coach rowing and I work at a grocery store just so I can drag my ass through school!
Unfortunately, if you don't want jobs like those for the rest of your life, you're going to have to go to school.
|I sell bike parts online....||MrCrud|
Apr 21, 2002 7:17 PM
|Fun job overall. Been a mechanic for 5 years, studying to be a Mechanical Eng so i can make my own bike!! Good luck on the search, it's not easy out there!
Apr 21, 2002 7:54 PM
If you are gonna be a teacher, make sure you can teach. The shortage of teacher has cuz the schools to hire some pretty bad ones lately. Our school got people's dad to teach, the person doesn't have a teaching license and can't teach. He claims to have gone to Stanford, but damn, we are teaching him in our Physics C AP class. He is the dumbest, one of the most detested teacher in our school.
|That's what you get from Stanfurd! Cal grad '81 nm||Brooks|
Apr 22, 2002 10:41 AM
|re: i need a job...whats yours and do you really like it||netso|
Apr 22, 2002 5:46 AM
|I have had the following jobs after college:
1. Taught HS Science (2 years - waiting for my Ph.D.)
2. Biologist with Marine Sciences Laboratory
3. Own Business for 20+ years
4. Taught Physiology in a Med School (Adjunct)
5. Environmental Science & Health VP for BFI
6. Superintendent of Public Works (Municipality)
One thing you find is that they are all jobs! When I taught in 1967, it was rewarding. The pay was low, but you could actually teach. Now, I would not do it!!!!!
The job with a Muni is safe, it will not go out of business, has excellent benefits. However, it is still a job. The best is to win a lottery!!!
|you could always be the CEO of Qwest||ColnagoFE|
Apr 22, 2002 7:57 AM
|Even after laying off 10k+ people and seeing the stock price plummet he still gets 26x more money this year than last year. Good work if you can get it.|
|or of Enron, or any dot com, or||PaulCL|
Apr 22, 2002 10:48 AM
|do some insider trading (Michael Miliken got to keep most of his $3 billion).
Problem is, all of those really good jobs are taken. Now winning that $300 million lottery looks like a good job for me. Don't know about you, but I could live off of the $100 million net (after taxes)...could you?
|I'd settle for a million :) (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Apr 22, 2002 12:43 PM
|Don't be an engineer||mr_spin|
Apr 22, 2002 9:23 AM
|Unless you really want to be AND are good at it, don't become an engineer. In my experience, the quality of engineers in the past five years has been pretty low, which makes it a very frustrating job. Lately I feel like a college professor who has to teach students basic math since they didn't learn it in high school. I think a lot of people got into college, looked for the job that paid the most and decided to do that. There was such a shortage of engineers in recent years, anyone could get hired. I can't wait for the day when i can walk away from all this.|
Apr 22, 2002 8:12 PM
|Can you elaborate on that. I'm gonna major in Aeronautical Engineering in college. I'm relatively good in math and science whenever the teacher can teach. I heard that it's hard for find a job as an aerospace engineer these days. Is that true? What college do you teach in? What do you mean by basic math? I have geometry, algebra, and trig down cold. I'm a little bit out of practice with higher level integration. Do you think engineering would be a good choice for me?|
Apr 23, 2002 7:26 AM
|What I said was that if you want to do it and are good at it, by all means, do it. I'm an engineer, not a professor, but I find I have to bring junior engineers up to speed on some really basic things that they should already know.
The best engineers I've ever worked with were passionate about what they did. It wasn't about money, it was about the challenge of creating stuff and solving problems. The worst engineers I've worked with had little interest in engineering, but saw the big salaries and signed up. If Dairy Queen paid as well, they'd just as well work there.
I can't tell you what is good for you. I don't know you. But it sounds like you have a pretty good idea of what you want to do, so go for it.
Apr 23, 2002 5:00 PM
|that was my intended major when I went to college. I have just decided to, shall we say, defect to psychology (this after 2 terms). I'd already made up my mind last term to do a masters in social psych, and I was getting totally slaughtered in my engineering courses, so I decided to just do psychology.|
|re: Transportation Planner...||jrm|
Apr 22, 2002 3:07 PM
|for the State Of California. its a great job.|
Apr 23, 2002 10:07 AM
|COACH!!! its great, rewarding, fun, and you can stay in shape.. pick a sport you love and an agegroup that you can handle
Apr 25, 2002 7:43 AM
|I sell software by day and bikes by night. I have a real job so that I can afford my "parts-time" job.|
|Rocket science ...||Humma Hah|
May 1, 2002 6:23 PM
|... actually, the present job is more jets, although one of the aircraft we're working on may end up on Mars, and propelled by a rocket. Everything I've done in the way of work since I was about 23 led me to this job, which I'm perfectly suited for and deliriously happy to be doing. Its also a perfect cycling commute from home, has showers, and comes with a gym membership.
The old job, which involved nuclear rocket science, was great, but necessitated a bi-coastal marriage. I got lonely and came home.