|Name some expensive hobbies||McAndrus|
Feb 14, 2002 4:19 PM
|I'm trying to get ahead of the curve here. Often my wife and I discuss the money I spend on biking. I expect I spend a grand or two a year on components, consumables, etc. - particulary when you average in a new bike every four or five years.
My goal is to identify other perfectly legal hobbies that are expensive - and I hope more expensive - than cycling. That way I can convince my bride of the great recreational value I'm getting for my investment. And, of course, a happier man makes a better husband and father, right?
I'd think golf, snow skiing, and boating are pretty expensive but I have no idea how they compare to cycling.
Any other hobbies and feel for relative spending levels?
|Polo, Yacht racing nm||mr_spin|
Feb 14, 2002 4:33 PM
|re: Name some expensive hobbies||cp123|
Feb 14, 2002 4:51 PM
|Dressage, horse trials and other horse sports! |
Trying to keep a horse and compete is why I have been perpetually poor for the last 20 years. Agistment - up to $80 per week, feed 2x per day, 7 days of the week (perhaps $50 a week?). Shoeing, $80 every 5-7 weeks - drenching $20 every couple of months, lessons/schools/clinics with trainer/coach up to $70 or more per one hour session (usually 2 or 3 sessions in a weekend every couple of months). Entry fees for competition on about half of my weekends, membership of respective breed societies or clubs, petrol money to drag horse around the country side for 6 months of the year (and towing a float chews through it in comparison to car alone).
Then this is when the horse is healthy. God forbid he gets sick or injured. Vet visit - close to $80 to simply come and look. X-rays, upwards of $100-150, medicines/drugs as appropriate - well whatever... plus the general maintenance things like teeth doing, physiotherapy, rugs, vaccinations etc. Insurance and rego on car and float, plus liability insurance in case he causes any damage. Then equipment - but once you've got saddles and bridles, rider outfits and all the "big ticket items" they'll last for years.
But now that he's a bit more senior and retired from competition, the expenses have certainly decreased, but they still need feed, feet and vet attention for the rest of their lives....
|my mom always claimed...||lonefrontranger|
Feb 15, 2002 1:17 AM
|that each show horse was about equivalent in cost to raising a kid. And keeping a horse for its lifetime is no joke - horses last a long time. I grew up on a Quarter Horse farm, and was big into 3-day eventing as a teenager. My QH / TB cross eventer died last winter at the tottering age of 34. When he got to be too arthritic in the hips to jump, I taught him trail (a Western discipline). He made headlines in several trade journals when he qualified for the AQHA World show in trail at the age of 25. He was the oldest horse anyone had qualified for Worlds. I didn't go simply because I was afraid of subjecting an old horse to the stress of hauling 1500+ miles (Dayton Ohio to Fort Worth, TX) in August heat.
For perspective on equipment cost, I sold my (used) event saddle for the money to buy my first real racing bike in '92 (Giant Cadex). It was an even trade. Western (silver trimmed) show saddles now run upwards of $10,000.
Feb 14, 2002 9:25 PM
|People spend crazy sums of money on stereo equipment and audiophile versions of CDs and records. I work with a guy who recently got an "unbelievable" deal on a pair of speaker cables: $700. He spends about $1000 to have his amplifier re-tubed, and his speakers cost about $10,000. He'll then go out and spend $30-$40 for an audiophile vinyl edition of a mono recording of Robert Johnson.|
Feb 14, 2002 10:04 PM
|LOL - It's a hobby? I can quit if I want? - nm||McAndrus|
Feb 15, 2002 5:20 AM
|Point taken, besides its too self-abusive to be a hobby,nm||OutWest|
Feb 15, 2002 6:38 PM
Feb 15, 2002 6:09 AM
|Any form of collecting -- stamps, coins, baseball cards, antiques . . . If you have the collecting bug, it will suck up all of the excess money you have and more. How would your wife feel if you spent several hundred dollars on a comic book or a silver spoon? I know people who have done both (and do it regularly).|
|Unless your spouse is a ascetic monk, it's always justifiable.||Sintesi|
Feb 15, 2002 6:58 AM
|My girlfriend goes in for a massage every three weeks or so, takes a bunch of acting classes, and drops $40-$60 every time she goes in for a haircut. Basically, at the end of the year she's outspent me easily by hundreds of dollars.
Any time that argument, "You spend too much on that cycling..." starts, I just pull out the laundry list of her transgressions. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it pretty baby.
|Harlots and heart attacks||cory|
Feb 15, 2002 9:31 AM
|No. 1 in my experience is car racing. The money I spend in a year on cycling these days wouldn't cover one weekend of a 12- or 15-race season of racing.
You can easily spend $100 a day on skiing, and that doesn't include the equipment. Once you have a bike, the sport is essentially free.
I'm not a golfer, but I have friends who brag about shooting a round at Pebble or wherever, and the fees there are over $100 a round, I think. Those mallet thingies they whack the balls with aren't cheap, either.
Supporting a girlfriend, which you don't do because you're so occupied with cycling, runs into money after awhile. And all the riding keeps you in shape, so you'll be around longer and not have three or four expensive heart attacks and bypass operations while you're here.
|skiing isn't that expensive if you do it right||lonefrontranger|
Feb 16, 2002 8:38 PM
|You can find screaming ski deals on Ebay starting in March - all the shops sell their demo stuff from then until May. I got a sweet pair of Volants last year, barely used, WITH Salomon top-of-the-line bindings for $245. New, they'd have retailed for over $850. Already had boots & poles from a $65 package deal I bought 10 years ago; the old straight skis from that set are my rock & crud skis. Bought all the accessories (goggles, jacket, bibs, etc.) a couple years ago when I started getting serious with the ski thing. They cost around $300 total - I shop for value, not what's the latest fashion rage. Yes, you can spend $400+ on an ultra-cool US Ski Team Spyder ski jacket. However, the Boulder Gear jackets (locally made no less) 2 racks over have the exact same features, were rated the same in the ski mags, look just as good without the billboard graphics, and cost $75.
Season pass, bought in September before the prices skyrocketed: $200. This is an unlimited pass to Keystone, Copper and A-Basin. My cousin owns a condo in Dillon, so we can spend the night up there anytime we want, and buying groceries at the condo beats the heck out of eating out at the mega-expensive restaurants.
So OK, not everyone lives 2 hours' drive from Arapahoe Basin et. al. But if you're smart, and keep your equipment costs reasonable, skiing is actually one of the more affordable sports (unless you race, then it's another story).
Bikes, on the other hand - I bleed some serious cash out of the bike thing. This year I've built up 2 Colnagos, one Record, one Daytona (that's over 4 grand right there, even at cost) and a Morgul Bismarck TT bike with Chorus (around 1K built up). Set of Zipp wheels, used, 1 season old: $600. Okay, so I sold 2 bikes for $1800 total to help pay for all this, but I'm still pretty hard in the hole. ACA annual membership = $25; USCF annual membership (if I get one) = $70 for dual (MTB/road). Race entry fees per weekend, upwards of $50, new tires at approximately 2 pair per season: $35-50 each, and so on and on. It adds up.
Feb 20, 2002 7:58 PM
|I got a pair of Salomon expert demo skiis w/ carbon bindings (forget which model) for $150 2 yrs ago. In our area you can get discount lift tickets at a local Parks and Rec organization for $28 weekedays and $31 weekends-not too shabby. Unfortunately, it's at a little pimple of a hill (600 vert feet), so I am REALLY jealous! :-) Can I come to visit? Take the wife and kids?!|
|Bring 'em on...||lonefrontranger|
Feb 24, 2002 8:30 PM
|A bunch of our Cincinnati racer friends have come up with all sorts of reasons to visit us since we moved out here. These are guys who wouldn't drive 4 hours to a decent stage race. One of 'em even called from Estes Park - it seems he was on a camping trip with his son and gave us a shout. 3 hours later, they showed up on our doorstep. They brought their bikes, so we took 'em to a local race the next day :-) They're threatening to return for a couple weeks next summer.
Our only request is that whoever drops in should call us with enough advance warning that we can throw all the dirty clothes into the closet and kick the bike parts out of the guest room...
Going skiing on Tuesday, they're calling for several inches of the fresh fluffy to play in. I know what you mean about 'ski blisters'; I grew up in Ohio. Learned to ski on the hockey rink otherwise known as Mad River Mtn.
Feb 25, 2002 10:54 AM
|Really, though, they ("Ski Roundtop") do pretty well with what they have. Our winters here in PA have been a bust lately, but they still manage to have decent conditions-great snowmaking abilities! Think I might take the girls Fri night. Night skiing is kinda fun.|
|terrorism (nm)||Woof the dog|
Feb 15, 2002 2:54 PM
|killing stupid dogs||nm|
Feb 18, 2002 10:38 AM
|His bark is worse than his overbite, nm||OutWest|
Feb 18, 2002 10:45 PM
|you might be surprised nm||Woof the dog|
Feb 20, 2002 1:34 AM
|cigarettes,booze and strippers...........||STEELYeyed|
Feb 15, 2002 6:07 PM
|can get pretty spendy,I've given up all three since I started cycling seriously,saved a ton of cash.|
|cigarettes,booze and strippers...........||IAM|
Feb 15, 2002 11:01 PM
|I did two of those three last night. but I'm not telling which two.|
Feb 17, 2002 12:05 PM
|My brother and brother in law are both involved in amateur race cars. I'm talking full blown dragsters (not top fuel). I think each car was around 70K, and then you need all the support equipment. A trailer for the car will run about 10-20K I would imagine. The brother in law was wanting to "upgrade" is 3 year old car this year too. Yeah, cycling is cheap in comparison.|
Feb 18, 2002 10:24 AM
|Get your wife into horses. Since that happened, the relatively insignificant costs of cycling have not even been mentioned in my house-hold, a far cry from the old days of "what on earth do you need ANOTHER pair of shorts/shirt/wheels/shoes/frame/helmet" etc etc...
And you can play the safety card too (horses appear to be virtually lethal, so far as I can see). On top of that, you don't have to get anyone to look after/feed the bike when you are away, the bike(s) doesn't get sick often, and if it does, spares are lots cheaper than vets, bikes don't fight when they are in the same space for more than 10 mins, bikes don't eat your garden, bikes don't escape, you don't have to waist half your spare time catching them before you can ride them, they don't cr@p every where, they don't make your garage stink, tyres are good for a lot longer than horse shoes, and you can change them yourself in 10 mins with minimal risk of injury - the list is virtually endless...
Feb 19, 2002 9:23 AM
|I wanted a horse as a kid, and got a cr125 dirtbike. goes all of the same places, doesn't create poo and can sleep in the garage. feeding is alot cheaper too!|
Feb 19, 2002 9:36 AM
|same goes for my Africa Twin - all criticism of that has ceased too (which is a double benefit - "you can't ride 2 bikes at the same time" etc etc)...|
Feb 19, 2002 11:04 AM
|It sounds more dangerous than it really is. More cyclists die in accidents each month than skydivers "bounce" in a year.
It has been almost 15 years since I jumped so everything is much more expensive now. Each airplane ride up to 13,000' was $15 (the jump was free!), but I believe it is $18 to $20+ now. At 5 to 7 jumps per day, times 2 for Saturday and Sunday, you spend $180 to $280 per week for jump tickets. I don't know how much a new container, main, and reserve canopies adds up to, but $2500 should be the entry level, and that's for used gear. Try $4000+ for a new middle level rig. Add in $150 to $200+ for a jump suit, $100 to $200 more for an altimiter, plus helmet, gloves... you get the picture!
Cycling, even with several bikes, wheelsets, jerseys, tools, and other countless items is minor in cost to skydiving.
|Falling out of a perfectly good boat||Turtleherder|
Feb 20, 2002 9:43 AM
|Want to spend some real money? Try scuba diving. First the lessons at around $350.00 a person, then lake fees of $125 per person. Next, buy your own equipment. You need a bouancy compensater, regulator, mask, fins, weight belt, dive lights, various wet suits, a dry suit if in cold water and than spares of everything and odds and ends. This adds up to around $8,000.00 to $10,000.00 for a couple if done right. Next, buy a Nikonos V underwater camera for $2,000.00 or better yet a housed system for $5,500.00. Now all you have to do is get in the water. Try a live aboard trip to the south seas for $4,500.00 per person. That enough expense for you?|
|re: Name some expensive hobbies||Snowbird|
Feb 28, 2002 2:32 AM
|If it flys, floats or f***s its expensive.|| |