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here is what fog doesDog
Feb 5, 2002 3:23 PM
This is why not to ride in the fog:





P.M. Update: At least two die in 40-car pileup in Fresno County fog

By Cyndee Fontana
The Fresno Bee

SELMA -- Two people were killed and at least 22 injured early this morning in a chain-reaction pile-up on fog-shrouded Highway 99 near Selma.

California Highway Patrol officials say 60 vehicles, including six big rigs, were involved in the most serious accident a mile south of the Second Street exit on northbound 99. The two fatalities occurred there; the identities of the dead have not yet been released.

At least two people were killed and dozens injured Tuesday morning when about 90 cars crashed in two separate accidents on fog-shrouded Highway 99 south of Fresno near Selma Tuesday morning.

A second 30-car pile-up occurred between the Mt. View and Bethel exits on northbound 99, behind the first crash scene. Minor injuries were reported there. CHP officials blamed the accidents on unsafe speed in foggy conditions.

Witnesses said visibility was at about 300 to 400 feet, but then dropped suddenly to 50-100 feet. CHP officers said the first accident started around 7:15 a.m. when a white pick-up was rear-ended.

Other collisions followed as drivers crashed domino-style into each other. Many vehicles along the roughly four-mile stretch of 99 looked like twisted metal pancakes, and rescuers had to cut some victims out of their cars.

Dave Johnston, 38, of Visalia, was on his way to work in Fresno when visibility "dropped down to next to nothing." He saw the back end of a Ryder truck and slammed on the brakes, then was struck by two pick-ups. Johnston, who was not injured, said: "For another 30 seconds I could hear collisions continue." His Porsche, which he bought three months ago, was virtually invisible in the wreckage of the main crash.

It was unclear how the two chain-reaction crashes began in the northbound lanes, said California Highway Patrol Officer Axel Reyes.

CHP officials expected that the northbound lanes would remain closed at least until 2:30 p.m. Traffic was being detoured around the wreckage. Roughly 100 medical and rescue personnel was at the scene. Roughly 30 people were taken to area hospitals from several accidents, but most came from the 99 accidents.
Nah...that's what stupid drivers do.Retro
Feb 5, 2002 3:36 PM
I used to live in the valley, and if there's one thing you can count on in the tule fog, it's that when you're feeling your way along at 15mph, going absolutely as fast as you dare, some jackass will boom past you at 70.
If I had it here, I'd post a picture I took last year in Lodi--I-5 is absolutely socked in, visibility about 30 feet. I got off and went over an overpass,and at the top there was bright sun. You could see for miles over the fog, like looking out over snow.
mostlyDog
Feb 5, 2002 3:50 PM
Well, yes, the stupid drivers cause the accidents, and likely take a lot of others with them. I tell my wife that if she hits that dense fog, to pull off the road as far as possible and wait. There is no safe place to be on the highway, fast, slow, or stopped.

I know what you mean about the thinness of the fog sometimes. When I ride into the foothills, it suddenly gets sunny and warmer compared to the valley.
mostlyDINOSAUR
Feb 5, 2002 6:33 PM
Do you think I enjoy retirement?
re: here is what fog doesMe Dot Org
Feb 5, 2002 9:14 PM
Funny, I saw this story on the news this morning, and I thought of you, Dog.

Many years ago I was driving from Redding to Los Angeles down I-5 during one of those horrible Central Valley fogs. There was an accident outside of Sacramento that was similar: jacknifed big rigs littered the road, and you actually had to drive off the road shoulder to get around it.

It was so foggy that I got lost getting back on the freeway after pulling off for coffee.

My parents live in Sacramento and my sister lives in Modesto, and one thing I STILL don't like is driving there in one of those fogs.

Do you ride your bike in that soup Doug? Seems like it would be pretty dangerous...
nopeDog
Feb 6, 2002 6:24 AM
I rarely ride in the mornings, anyway, and that's when it tends to be worse. Also, many times the fog is very localized, usually in the lowest areas. Even a few feet of elevation change puts you above it. There is a lower river area near where this accident occured, and my house, and the direction I usually ride, is 50-100 feet higher than that. In fact, it was totally sunny where I live and work when this accident happened.

As Dino suggested, not a good day to be a CHP.

Doug
Ahhhhh SR 99..jrm
Feb 6, 2002 4:15 PM
Dude, Foggy or not that road bite's. I dont drive it anymore...take the 5
WHAT FOG???HUH
Feb 7, 2002 4:49 PM