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Good Parents or Bad Parents?(11 posts)

Good Parents or Bad Parents?bikedodger
Jan 29, 2002 1:30 PM
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's daughter Noelle, who is the niece of President Bush, was arrested on Tuesday on a charge of fraudulently trying to obtain the prescription anti-anxiety drug Xanax, police said.

Noelle Bush, 24, was arrested shortly after 1 a.m. on a charge of prescription fraud outside a pharmacy in the state capital, Tallahassee, police said. She was handcuffed and taken to the Leon County Jail and later released.

The governor, who is the president's younger brother, released a statement saying he and his wife Columba were ''deeply saddened'' over the incident.

``This is a very serious problem. Unfortunately substance abuse is an issue confronting many families across our nation,'' the statement said. ``We ask the public and the media to respect our family's privacy during this difficult time so that we can help our daughter.''

Asked about the arrest later at an unrelated news conference, the governor said only: ``It's a private matter. It's really hard.''

According to the arrest report, a woman phoned in the prescription to a pharmacy in Tallahassee, leaving the information on two voice mail messages. The pharmacist said he became suspicious because the caller did not specify a quantity, and checked with the answering service of the doctor who supposedly prescribed the drug.

Another doctor there told him the doctor in question ``is moving and isn't really practicing now and said it was a fake and to bust her,'' according to the police report.

When Noelle Bush came to the drive-through window to pick up the prescription, the pharmacist phoned police and she was arrested, the report said. Police took the voice mail recording as evidence and said the voice on the tape and Noelle Bush's voice ``appear identical,'' according to the arrest report.

Noelle is the governor's middle child. The couple also have two sons -- George P., aged 25, and Jeb Jr., 18. The arrest report listed Noelle's address as an apartment complex in Tallahassee.

President Bush's twin daughters, Jenna and Barbara, were arrested in 2001 on charges of underage drinking.

Xanax is the brand name for the anti-anxiety drug known generically as alprozalam, widely prescribed for short-term treatment of anxiety and panic attacks. It is made by Pharmacia Corp., though the generic version has been available from several manufacturers for about 10 years.
She's 24. Her parents are no longer the issue - nmMcAndrus
Jan 29, 2002 4:45 PM
Does this say something about parents driven to succeed?Retro
Jan 29, 2002 5:28 PM
Drinking and doing drugs aren't unusual for 19- and 24-year-olds, and I don't think the Bushes are worse (in that regard, anyway) than a lot of other families.
Makes you wonder, though, about the duties of parents, especially those with that Bush hyper-need to succeed, to carry on the dynasty. When the kids were small, were W and Jeb home reading "Goodnight, Moon" or were they out campaigning or making money? Some of you with young children, or expecting babies, might think about that.
And question two is: The Repubs are demanding respect for the family's privacy in this "personal" matter. How come nobody raised that issue when Clinton was in the White House?
Because....PaulCL
Jan 30, 2002 6:07 AM
Clinton was porking the 20+ year old! He, the 50ish supposedly mature adult was taking advantage of a 22 or 23 year old intern! He was the one in the wrong, not the young one. I'm sure that Monica's family would have wanted all of the problems to be quiet. There is no comparison.

I specifically remember the Clintons requesting, and receiving, from the press, privacy for their daughter, Chelsea. Chelsea was never in the news - so as far as we know, she was the perfect child.
Bulljebbypoo
Jan 30, 2002 9:27 AM
Both of em were consenting adults. No way he took advantage of monica. more like the other way around. How cvan you say Monica wasn't responsible for her actions but the bush daughter was?
You have no cluePaulCL
Jan 30, 2002 10:31 AM
Yes, Bill and Monica were consenting adults and no, I do not excuse Ms. Bush's actions - she is personally responsible. I never excused her actions nor Monica Lewinsky's. But Ms. Bush's actions were not the responsibity of her parents, she, as an adult acted individually and stupidly. I believe all concerned would have preferred this to be kept quiet.

As for Bill and Monica, yes, both are/were adults. But...a big but here...Bill, the President of the US was in a position of power over his employee - Monica. He should never had allowed the situation to progress, he used his office for personal gain (a hummer), he acted irresponsibly and therefore, must accept most of the blame. If I was to have a sexual relationship with my intern or 20 year old underling, I would be fired on the spot and/or sued for sexual harassment/imposition. Bill abused his power with a potentially naive, significantly younger subordinate. He was dead wrong. How in the world can you blame Monica for all of that?? She get a good chunk of the blame, but his was the bigger error. The same rules should apply to the President as does to me and you - the crux of the controversy.
A new syndrom: Bush DaughteritisPdxMark
Jan 30, 2002 8:54 AM
After the problems with W's daughters, and now Jeb's, I think we have a new syndrom.... But just how do we define it?

Youthful experimentation + bad luck (getting caught)?....

Bad judgment + bad luck?

Any mild intoxicant will do + bad luck?

And, I dread to think it, but which of these young women is destined to be the 47th pres?
Jeb and George W only abuse illegal; drugs like coke *nm)jebbypoo
Jan 30, 2002 9:10 AM
How about?PaulCL
Jan 30, 2002 11:32 AM
Bushbushbingers? or Buschbushimbibers?

The problem with W's daughters is that they were stupid and stupid enough to get caught. How many of us drank before age 21? How many tried to pass a fake ID? How many tried to get a drink in a restuarant or bar before 21?? Of course, none of us (I think) of offspring of famous politicians.
Yeah...agree. They inherited the Bush "smarts" (nm)Defman
Jan 30, 2002 11:43 AM
re: Good Parents or Bad Parents?netso
Jan 30, 2002 11:49 AM
I molested young girls since my still wife of 36 years was only 14 yo when I met her. I drank before I was 21 yo. I smoked marijuana and snorted cocaine. However, I have a Ph.D., won Bodybuilding titles, owned a successful business for over 20 years, have authored 5 books etc.
Who am I to JUDGE!