|photos from around Fresno and mountains||Dog|
Jan 9, 2002 8:00 AM
|So I got a new digital cameral for Christmas... Here are some scenes from some of the routes I ride a lot here in the Fresno foothills and mountains. I make no claim to photographic or digital manipulation expertise. I'll add more from time to time. :-)
Jan 9, 2002 8:06 AM
|In Fresno? How high up is that and what are the temperatures like in those snowy pics?
Why do I still live in Chicago??
|61 degrees and snow||Dog|
Jan 9, 2002 8:12 AM
|It was 61 degrees in the valley; that day the snow started around 5,000 feet; those pictures cover about 50 miles, one way, of a route. It almost never snows in the valley. In the summer, the snow is all gone except from about 12,000 feet up in the mountains, no where we ride. We ride up and down those hills all the time in the summer.
The temperature drops about 4 degrees per thousand feet of elevation gain. The valley is about 300 feet; the lake you see in one picture is at 5,500 feet.
|I really need to move||Kristin|
Jan 9, 2002 8:56 AM
|Thanks for the pictures. I am contemplating a move one day. It helps to see some "real" pictures of California. I assume that things get a little greener in the summertime, and that leaves will grow back onto those trees. So the tempurature ranges from 61 to 40 on your ride. You must have to travel with an entire wardrobe!
Now can someone post route pictures and climate data from Colorado, Northern CA, N Carolina and S Carolina?
|re: Ill Bet...||jrm|
Jan 9, 2002 9:28 AM
|The descents a blast. But summer ridings got to be torture.|
|re: photos from around Fresno and mountains||DINOSAUR|
Jan 9, 2002 11:16 AM
|We travel the same type of roads, my daily rides look like your's at the 4800 ft level. The rain fall averages are up 220% for the month of December and I have been relying on my Concept2 for exercise. I have a freind the lives near Vancouver B.C. and I was thinking of mailing him some photos of my ride route and he could do likewise.
I guess most folks don't realize how deversified the state of California is.
My Christmans present was a DVD...
Jan 9, 2002 12:44 PM
|Yes, California is very diverse. Before I moved here, I thought it was all beaches and desert. However, on one bike ride alone, I can travel through about 4 climate zones, from desert, grassy foothills, oaks, to huge pines and redwoods. California has rainy/wet areas, real deserts, agricultural deserts (here), and lots of mountains. It's sort of nice - you can have anything you want.
I used to live in Auburn, and spent lots of time traveling between there and Bullard's Bar lake. I like your area a lot. In the summer, I spend most of my riding time up in the 5,000-9,000 foot areas -- much cooler and more scenic.
It's rained lots here, too, but I'm not fighting or avoiding it. I went out and bought all the right gear, good rainsuit, shoes, lights, even the fixed gear bike (less hassle), and ride rain or shine, dark or light. In fact, I have not done an indoor workout at all since October. It's really fun, actually, plowing through 4" puddles in the dark.
I'll add lots more photos. Those don't nearly represent the diverse areas even around here.
DVD's are nice, with a great picture. No rewinding is nice, too. I'm just wanting the prices of the movies to come down. $25 for a movie is pretty outrageous.
Jan 10, 2002 8:25 AM
|Besides the rain gear, and a fixed gear bike, I'd probably need a set of water wings. For some reason the storms just seem to funnel right up the I-80 corridor where I do just about all my rides.
You probably wouldn't recognize the lower Placer County area. I took a trip down to SR-65 and there is a brand new off ramp, Pleasant Grove, with a couple of thousand new houses with shopping centers. It's like Stanford Ranch never ends. The city of Lincoln is gridlock when the traffic goes through the town during commute. They are having a fight on the proposal for a Hwy 65 bypass. The farmers are dead set against it.
Yeah the DVD's are expensive, however they cost the same to rent as the VHF's at Blockbuster. Anyway there is seldom a movie they make these days that I want to buy. We have both the DVD and the VHF hooked up to our TV, so we have the best of both worlds.
We saw the sun yesterday for a brief time until the fog moved back in, which is unusal as we seldom get fog here. The whole weather pattern is goofy...
|yes, but less every day||mr_spin|
Jan 10, 2002 9:10 AM
|When I was growing up in L.A. we would go down to San Diego or Mexico a lot. I remember the area around Mission Viejo and San Juan Capistrano was overdeveloped, but between Dana Point and San Diego was a lot of beautiful open country and some small towns.
It was shocking the last time I was there. It seems like every buildable piece of land south of Dana Point has been paved over with houses and shopping centers. For miles and miles. The only land that seemed to survive was Camp Pendelton. I'm sure the Marines had to set up a perimeter with concertina wire to keep developers out!
The same thing is happening all over California. North of L.A. out in Santa Clarita. Northwest of L.A. out in Simi Valley, Moorpark, Agoura, Camarillo. East of Silicon Valley out in Los Banos, Stockton, Tracy, Modesto.
When is it going to end? When everyone in the USA is living here? Where is all the water going to come from? And the power? Where is all the sewage going to go? I can see why people want to come here to live, but this is insane!
I figure ten years from now I'll probably be somewhere else. And if I ever become a billionaire, I'm going to buy up a bunch of the countryside that I love to ride through, and lock it up forever so no one ever builds on it.
By the way, I love DVDs. But an alternative is to get DirecTV with a box that has an optical Dolby Digital output. That way you can watch pay per view movies with a near DVD quality picture and full 5.1 sound. It costs as much as renting one, and you don't have to bring it back! Only a few movies each month have full Dolby Digital however. The rest are Pro Logic.
|So Doug, how big is your house??||PaulCL|
Jan 9, 2002 12:09 PM
|And how many houseguests can you hold?? 'Cause I'm flying out of here tomorrow! Kristin, I'll fly through Chicago and pick you up on the way....here we come!
Seriously, it looks beautiful. I'm looking out of my office window at melting snow. It's going to hit a balmy 40 here in Northern Ky today but rain is expected tomorrow. If not for careers, mortgage, friends, and family (the important part) I would move. Around here, the weather is nice about nine months per year, but no mountains.
Jan 9, 2002 12:47 PM
|Come on out. Group ride here.
|O.K. we're there!||MB1|
Jan 9, 2002 12:56 PM
|But do you think you can keep up with Miss M, I know I can't.
|fixed gear century!||Dog|
Jan 9, 2002 1:18 PM
|We'll do a fixed gear century, throwing in some long 10% climbs. No flip flops, so you gotta ride the same gear down as up. I still probably won't be able to keep up, but it would be fun anyway.
|Oh you could keep up-for a day or week or even a month||MB1|
Jan 9, 2002 3:40 PM
|Sooner or later though she'll drive you into the ground. ;-)
She is being coy about her milage for last year but I am pretty sure she got around 18K. Some people are just natural born endurance riders-I used to think I was (now I know better).
Maybe we could wear her out by riding with her every other day. Hmmm.....could be an idea.
|You could call it the||Spinchick|
Jan 10, 2002 6:15 AM
|NSA/OCE Century West. Don't forget the snowcones...|
|You still mad you missed the snowcones?||MB1|
Jan 10, 2002 8:52 AM
|If so I'll mail you and the Li'l Biker a couple!|
|I was really looking forward to the Corona flavored cones. nm||Spinchick|
Jan 10, 2002 10:51 AM
|Wish they all could be California roads||Brian C.|
Jan 9, 2002 12:57 PM
|(Sigh.) Look at all that clear, clean blacktop.|
|Look at those nice clean, wide, shoulders...||biknben|
Jan 14, 2002 12:18 PM
|That is not what I'm used to. Picture the white line...with a curb or a ditch 6 inches away. Oh yeah, on the other side is a SUV honking at me.
Getting depressed! :-(
|there are some good ones||Dog|
Jan 14, 2002 1:00 PM
|Many of the roads have those good shoulders, actually designated as "Bike Lanes" on "Bike Routes." What you don't see is a lot of broken glass from beer bottles thrown out car windows. But, it's better than dodging cars.
Even most of the roads with no shoulders don't have much traffic, plus people around here see cyclists so often that 99% of them watch out for us and give us a wide berth. It's a nice area to ride.
|We could've passed on the road that day, Dog||Straightblock|
Jan 11, 2002 1:04 PM
|We rode Auberry Rd/Millerton Rd/Humphrey Station that day. It's nice to get above the fog line & into the sun on those dreary winter days (like we have today).
Racers who come up from Los Angeles for the early season races envy us for the rolling green foothills & wildflowers in the spring here in the Central Valley, but anyone who's come to town for the Climb to Kaiser in July knows what summers are like around here. It's a pleasant 75° or so at the pre-dawn start, but you might park your bike against a 5' snow bank at the Kaiser Pass check point, and you can count on riding down into 105° or more at the finish. And those lush green foothills are now tinder-dry up to about 4000 feet.
Straightblock (not trying to discourage anyone from coming out, just don't want anyone disappointed if they come in the summer)
|Added more photos of mountains from January 11||Dog|
Jan 14, 2002 7:28 AM
|re: photos from around Fresno and mountains||PbOkole|
Jan 15, 2002 5:24 AM
|So, tell me more about the camera. YOu amy not remember me as I haven't really posted too much over the last several months but we have corresponded in the past. I am a digital buff as well as a cyclist. Have you checked out the sister site pcphotoreview.com? They have galleries to post pictures as well as a discussion forum and a critique gallery.
(Formerly known as Larry Meade)
Jan 15, 2002 6:36 AM
|Hey, Larry. It's a Fujifilm 2600Z. Nothing special. I was not really attempting to show any photographic prowess, but merely give folks a fair sampling of what it really looks like around here. Other than some cropping of unwanted junk I got in the frame, like a car mirror, I just threw them on the site. Thanks.