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Any MS Windows experts here?(16 posts)

Any MS Windows experts here?Dog
Jan 2, 2002 8:10 AM
Is there a setting to make all windows open full screen (maximized)? I have Windows ME, if it matters. Thanks.

Dog
Nomr_spin
Jan 2, 2002 8:19 AM
For technical reasons I won't get into, it's a bad idea to force all windows to open full screen, so there isn't a Windows setting to do so.

But...all Microsoft apps and many others should remember the last size/position/state of their main windows. As long as you closed them full screen, they should open again full screen automatically. Some apps have preferences where you can force them to open full screen. That's the best you can do.

Besides, it's 2002! Full screen windows are so 1986! Overlapping windows rule!
thanksDog
Jan 2, 2002 8:34 AM
Even with a 19" monitor and 1024 resolution, I still like to make things big; I can "alt+tab" between windows pretty well, so I just prefer full size.

I see what you mean, though. I guess some programs would get messed up full screen.

Thanks.

Dog
Alt-Tab?Kristin_CLS
Jan 2, 2002 12:08 PM
Well, you should just have them put Win3.11 back on it! :-)
Just kidding of course! Do you have large fonts selected under your desktop preferences? I can't imagine things looking big under 1024 unless your running one of those ugly desktop schemes...or your really close to the screen.
Nodustin73
Jan 2, 2002 10:18 PM
would you mind explaining why it's a bad idea? does it use up more RAM or something? you can keep it short, i'm just curious...
Well...mr_spin
Jan 3, 2002 8:14 AM
It's not a bad idea for you to make all your windows full screen. But it is a bad idea to force all windows to open full screen. Certain apps aren't designed to work full screen, such as toolbar type programs. And there can be other problems if the app has an "Always on top" feature.

There are also a lot more windows around than you may be aware of. Maybe for some people there is some value in a feature forcing full screen mode only to top-level, non-toolbar, non-dialog windows, but Microsoft will never do that. Windows is supposed to be a multitasking OS. In their ideal world you are working in several apps at once, dragging stuff from one to the other, with live video going, etc. That's not a full screen world. (It's not necessarily even a Windows world! If you really want to live in that world, you have to move to at least Windows NT. The Windows 95 series (including 98 and ME) won't cut it.)

Full screen windows can end up using more RAM, but it probably isn't a significant amount.
app by appDog
Jan 3, 2002 9:11 AM
It would be nice, then, if you could set it app by app. It seems most programs and/or shortcuts aren't very good at remembering these settings. What about that?

With 512MB of main memory and 64MB of video memory, that's not an issue.

Dog
Most applications remember "last state"Kristin_CLS
Jan 3, 2002 9:50 AM
You should be able to do this app by app because most applications remember the display settings when you exit them. If you open, say MSWord, and maximize it, it should store those settings and be Maximized the next time you open it.

To test an application to see if it remembers its last state:
*Open any application
*Right click the icon that appears for it in your Windows Task Bar
*Choose Maximize (If Maximize is greyed out, then the app is already maximized. In this case, choose Restore.)
*Close the application
*Open the application again

Did it open at the same size and screen position it was at when you closed it? If not, then it will not remember the settings. Also, on some apps, Maximize is always greyed-out. In other words, the programmers don't allow you to make it full screen. But usually, its because all the info fits in a smaller window w/no scroll bar.

There are few applications today that will not remember "last state" upon exiting. The only way that all of your apps would fail to remember the settings is if you left them open and turned off your PC by hitting the power button.
Example of an application that will not...Kristin_CLS
Jan 3, 2002 9:54 AM
...remember that it was last Maximized and that always opens at the same screen location and size is Notepad.
you mean "Visual Notepad" Microsoft's only useful app (nm)Dilbert
Jan 3, 2002 1:07 PM
app by appmr_spin
Jan 3, 2002 10:04 AM
The "show" type (normal, minimized, maximized, etc.) is passed into the app when the app is launched. There is no obligation for the app to use this parameter, but it is considered good practice to do so. Some apps (e.g., Calculator) purposely ignore the parameter because it makes no sense. Other apps are just poorly written. If an app chooses to ignore the parameter, you are out of luck.
Yeah...what he saidKristin_CLS
Jan 3, 2002 11:46 AM
He said it better and more accurately. I'm not worthy. :-)
everything becomes an issue with 64 megs or RAM...nmdustin73
Jan 3, 2002 10:40 AM
of....not or...oopsdustin73
Jan 3, 2002 3:07 PM
why would you want to do this? (nm)Fred Temarles
Jan 2, 2002 12:06 PM
'cuz I paid for a 19" monitor and I want to use all of it nmDog
Jan 3, 2002 6:39 AM