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Does it seem weird to anyone...Me Dot Org
Nov 12, 2001 10:13 PM
...That 90% of the news time today is devoted to the air crash in New York, while the Taliban is abandoning Kabul?

Please don't misunderstand me. I feel terrible about the crash in New York. The Big Apple has had enough trauma to last a lifetime in the past few months. But this accident (at this point) seems to be related to mechanical failure, not terrorist activity.

The fall of Kabul, both internationally and for the United States, is a much bigger story. This is not the final victory over the Taliban and El Qaida in Afghganistan (indeed, the fighting in in Pashtun-majority south should be much more spirited), but clearly I think it signals the end of ANY pretense to a National Government the Taliban might have had. It certainly doesn't mean the end of conflict. I'm sure there are many Pashtuns who didn't support the Taliban who will not be happy to see the Northern Alliance take control of the Capital. Hopefully the Northern Alliance (with the proper economic insentives and security guarantees) will share power with moderate Pashtuns from the south.

Anyway, despite the immediacy of the tragedy in Queens, I'm just suprised about how little air time the fall of Kabul is getting. It seems our Media's voracious appetite for news has no sense of proportion...
You're right.Sintesi
Nov 13, 2001 5:58 AM
However, the average American still can't find Kabul on a map let alone tell you its significance as a capital city. As much media focus as there has been on the Afghan war campaign, I don't believe Americans are going to be too invested in its progress until significant numbers of our soldiers come home in body bags or Bin Laden is captured. The spectre of terrorism on the home front is a much more palpable and immediate concern hence its ability to eclipse the Afghan campaign in the short term.

You have to admit that it is awful that NYC has endure another tragedy like this so soon and so close to home. It is compelling in that sense.
You're right.Me Dot Org
Nov 14, 2001 9:05 AM
"However, the average American still can't find Kabul on a map let alone tell you its significance as a capital city."

American Humorist Ambrose Bierce said "War is God's way of teaching Americans Geography".
LOL! (nm)Sintesi
Nov 14, 2001 10:59 AM
not surprising at allmr_spin
Nov 13, 2001 7:52 AM
Americans care about America first. Plus, the crash happened in New York, which is the headquarters or key outpost of most of the major media outlets. Plus, it could have been terrorism. Plus, etc., etc., etc.

But there is another aspect to this as well. Kabul is the capital of the Afghanistan, and is clearly a key city and victory for the alliance. But it's importance is secondary to Khandahar, because that's where the Taliban is based.

Finally, as disgusted as I am with our media in general, at least they know that they can't believe everything that gets reported out of Afghanistan. Both sides are very media savvy, so unless the reports come from their own people or from other reliable sources, they won't be given the same level of credence. If someone tells them Kabul has fallen, they are going to spend some time trying to confirm it and ideally, get footage. If a plane crashes in Queens, it's a lot less effort and time to get that on the air.
not surprising at all4bykn
Nov 13, 2001 8:11 AM
not surprising at allDINOSAUR
Nov 13, 2001 10:39 PM
I am disgusted with the media in general. I gave up on the local evening news, it's more like a talk show, happy face, goody, goody time. They really don't report the news. It's getting more like Current Edition or one of the other tabloid shows.

I was surfing the TV last last and came across CNN talking about the crash in the Queens. At the bottom of the screen the banner had a blip about the falling of Kabul, it went by so fast I thought I was seeing things. Then again, this is a war and they can't possibly keep the public informed as to everything that is happening for security reasons. Going the other direction maybe our problem is that we are accustomed to being too well informed.

I also watched a very informative show on CNN the other night about the history of war in Afghanistan. Some very graphic footage of the war with Russia. I feel sort of uncomfortable sitting in my living room watching people die in living color. It's becoming difficult to tell fiction from real life, perhaps that is part of the problem we have in this world. It makes you stop and think about what is important, it has for me anyway. No matter how you look at it war is ugly..
Not really, considering....Patricia
Nov 13, 2001 8:18 AM
It has been almost the same here in France....70% of the news time devoted to the plane crash in Queens...all radio and TV broadcast/programmes being interrupted.
And we are not Americans..!
So how is it today?Sintesi
Nov 14, 2001 7:27 AM
I'm sure all interest stems from speculation that the crash was caused by terrorism. Probably not so interested now, eh? Tell me how is the general French perspective (if there is such a thing) developing concerning the war campaign on terror?
Unusual? no.Starliner
Nov 13, 2001 9:02 AM
The crash is a sensational, close-to-home event with a high immediacy, high emotion factor. Logistically easier to cover, with a who-dunnit plot line that should play out within a short time. Perfect for commercial broadcasting.

OTOH, the fall of Kabul is but one of the components of the whole, with more to follow. It's an expected and important subassembly to the complete product, but whether or not the final product will work will be dependent on a whole lot of other things in the process that follows. Stay tuned.

BTW, this is a great thread for the non-cycling forum.
Nov 13, 2001 9:13 AM
Sorry for the gentle scold in my last line... I thought I was in the other forum!
24 hour cable newsJason H
Nov 13, 2001 10:30 AM
Is there anything more exciting than listening to so called experts speculate on speculation?
Marshal McLuhan Anyone?Jon
Nov 13, 2001 12:45 PM
The entire discussion here illustrates our media-induced shortened attention spans.
Everything is packaged for the 15 second sound bite, so proximity, immediacy, emotional
impact become primary editorial criteria. Something as complex and with no simplistic,
immediate resolution as the Afghanistan situation is difficult for the visual media and the
media-consuming public to digest.
Jeraldo Rivera..........STEELYeyed
Nov 13, 2001 9:25 PM
is going to Afghanastan this week to be a war correspodant.........he had better hurry.