|Certainly Not on Ebay!||marcovelopsycho|
Apr 15, 2001 6:31 AM
|Just a little rant here, but has anyone else noticed how stupid bidders are on Ebay? I'd say it is a rip off, but you can't blame a seller if someone is dumb enough to bid higher than retail for bike parts. I guess this is a good thing for those of us who know where to buy stuff at good prices, then want to get rid of it later.|
|re: Certainly Not on Ebay!||DrD|
Apr 15, 2001 6:45 AM
|No joke - the best nickname I have heard for EBay is "overPay" - you frequently see used items selling for as much, or more, than they can be picked up new via mail order (if you know where to look...) |
Best explanation I can come up with is that people get too wrapped up with the "I gotta have it" attitude - they don't know when to let go... In general, that "problem" seems to be more with mainstream stuff, than the obscure - as an example, I picked up a brand new OEM part for my Toyota for under $10 which goes for $107 at the dealer, $86 online - not too shabby!
My biggest complaint about EBay is snipers - a number of times I have been bidding on an item, then loose it because a bid comes in with under 10 seconds left on the clock... you hit "refresh" on the web browser, and it comes back with a new high bid along with the "auction has ended" message... I think they should extend the close time to 5 minutes after the last bid (would be better for sellers as well as more fair for buyers - esp. if you don't have high speed internet and live in California...)
|Ah ha hahaha||Sniper|
Apr 15, 2001 3:34 PM
|You don't need high speed or have to live in Calif to bid with less than 5 sec to go- badda boom, badda bing!|
|That's not what I meant pinhead.||DrD|
Apr 15, 2001 4:50 PM
|No - you certainly don't - however, if you are already the high bidder, why would you bid again in the last 5 seconds? I wasn't saying you couldn't place a bid in the last few seconds - what I was saying is that you can't RESPOND to a bid placed in the last 5 or 10 seconds (unless you can refresh really fast). |
The best approach I have found is to use Ebay's version of a proxy bid, where you enter the max you are willing to pay, and it just keeps increasing your bid to one bid increment over the last bid placed until your limit is exceeded. That approach let me beat out a sniper this morning - the lousy little bugger placed a bid with 3 seconds remaining on the clock...
|last minute bidders: fact of life||ciocc|
Apr 20, 2001 8:41 AM
|the price goes too high when you bid too early. besides, this is capitalism in it's pure state; trench warfare, so to speak. i just bought a diamondback prevail tg roadbike frameset for $45.00 shipped on e-bay; i was amazed nobody bid against me; i refreshed every few seconds to watch the bids (& create traffic to slow down my competitors). on the other hand, all those years of reading bike magazines are paying off now; maybe nobody knew it's made of tange prestige tubing. maybe nobody knows what prestige is.|
|Wake up||The Real George|
Apr 22, 2001 1:24 PM
|That's the seller making sure he doesn't sell for too little, kind of a back door reserve.|
Apr 23, 2001 3:27 AM
|Yeah - the paranoid person inside me was thinking that, too - and I am sure that sometimes is true (the item being protected by either the seller, or the seller's friend) - however, in the last auction I took part in, a sniper placed a bid with 3 sec on the clock, but it was the same as my max, so I won - however, there was another similar item (different seller) which finished the next day - the same bidder went after, and got, that one (for more than I paid :-) ). I have also taken part in auctions (one for a carbuerator come to mind) where there have been multiple snipers going at it at the same time (the price quadrupled in under 10 seconds - from $50 to $227.50)... so maybe that guy had more than one friend :-)|
|Ebay...big enough for everyone||Just Do It|
Apr 17, 2001 3:54 PM
|No one ever said Ebay is the discount store's nightmare. They are just another outlet to sell stuff. And yes, buyer beware. Just because it's an auction does not mean the buyer does not have to do his/her homework to figure out what's a fair or great price. I like Ebay...it's just another tool.
As far as snipers go...yet again...just another tool. What's fair in love and war? It's not cheating...it's just free enterprise. And yes, the proxy bid is your protection. If you get lucky enough to win on a proxy bid against sniper attacks, then you probably still got a reasonably good deal, unless you put your proxy bid too high and they elevated the bid too high.
But when I comparison shop for something big, I'll compare it all...stores, internet and Ebay. Options...gimme more options! :-)
|Check this out: speedplay x-4||simstress|
Apr 18, 2001 9:47 AM
|speedplay x-4 clipless road pedals
Folks are bidding on this one. LOL!
|re: Certainly Not on Ebay!||mike mcmahon|
Apr 23, 2001 6:19 PM
|Certainly, the bids on some items defy reason and common sense. However, bargains on e-bay are not impossible to find. Last year, I purchased a brand-new Limar F107 helmet for $60, including shipping. Most places sell the helmet for $120. The cheapest I saw it anywhere was $100. E-bay is also a good source for hard to find used parts. For example, I recently purchased a set of Chorus 8-speed levers that I desperately needed but could not find anywhere else. I usually look through the "closing today" category under bikes just to spot anything that appears to be going cheap. However, sometimes I wonder whether e-bay bidders don't have any local bike shops and don't know about internet bike retailers.|
|Sour grapes methinks from many of you.||Thioderek|
Apr 24, 2001 3:38 PM
|I have bought numerous bikes, parts and other things off of Ebay. I have sniped, been sniped and just plain been outbid. It is all part of the game. Anyone complaining about sniping would employ the same methods and wouldnt be upset if they had won the war. The best defense against sniping I find is to put up a max bid in an unusual increment like $48.50 or $73.67. Snipers like to go up in 5s or 10s, they are not ready for a weird number like that. It has worked more than once. Just so you all know, I will snipe again and welcome the challenge of you trying to snipe me.|
|Sometimes Ebay is a good value||fuck you too|
Apr 25, 2001 2:49 PM
|Like the a-holes above said, sometimes the bids are over the retail or the seller has an unrealistic reserve amount.
I got lucky once with a reputable seller. for a rear Rev-X $150 as USED. It works well and I didn't get ripped off because I was not bidding for New at new price. Ebay works if you look for deals on used good merchandise.