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Offers from West Africa?(11 posts)

Offers from West Africa?NoahD
Jan 21, 2003 10:04 AM
I was offered full price on my Colnago Ct-1 ($3000) w/o negotiations from a man claiming to live in Cotonu, W Africa. I was to be contacted by a "shipping agent", which I was. This guy wanted to send me a check from somebody who owed him 10Gs and I was to deposit the money into my account then transfer the remaining $7K to Western Union, at which point the bike would be picked up. Sound fishy? Anybody know what the deal is with these guys?
It's a scam. STAY AWAY nmDave Hickey
Jan 21, 2003 1:29 PM
re: Offers from West Africa?Dirks14
Jan 25, 2003 7:34 PM
I was also offered a similar deal from a man calling himself Louis Billops claiming to be from West Africa. He wanted to send me a check for several thousand dollars for my bike which I am selling for less than $1K. The money was to come from another person in the USA which owed him money. I was supposed to send my bike to his freight forwarder and then Western Union the remaining several thousand dollars to West Africa. I told him no and have not recieved any emails from him since. I think this is probably some kind of money laundering scam so sellers beware.
Happen to me to...frog
Jan 27, 2003 12:41 PM
I just receved an email from a guy in Africa who wants to give me $5000, I keep the cost of the frame I'm selling ($1000 for my Loco_Moto), and send him the difference. He'll have somebody pick up the frame from me.

money laundering anyone?
re: Offers from West Africa?bargs
Jan 27, 2003 5:09 PM
Hmmm, I'm glad this forum is here. Received this email today, not sure what to think. We'll see!

DEAR SIR

I AM A BUSINESS MAN AND I AM IN CONJUCTION IN SELLING USED BIKES TO CUSTOMERS IN WEST AFRICA, BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO IS READY TO PURCHASE YOUR BIKE.AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WILL BE PAYING YOU WITH U.S.A CASHIER CHECK SO GETS BACK TO ME IMMEDIATELY WITH YOUR LAST NEGOTIATABLE PRICE FOR THE BIKE. HOPE TO SEE YOUR REPLY SOONEST.

THANKS,

JAMES *******................
re: Offers from West Africa?Dirks14
Jan 27, 2003 6:22 PM
I received the same email....

DEAR SIR,
I AM A BUSINESS MAN AND I AM IN CONJUCTION IN
SELLING USED BIKES TO CUSTOMERS IN WEST AFRICA, BUT
RIGHT NOW I HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO IS READY TO PURCHASE
YOUR BIKE.AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WILL BE
PAYING YOU WITH U.S.A CASHIER CHECK SO GETS BACK TO ME
IMMEDIATELY WITH YOUR LAST NEGOTIATABLE PRICE FOR THE
BIKE. HOPE TO SEE YOUR REPLY SOONEST.
THANKS,
LIOUS BILLUPS............
Straight from the FBI...frog
Jan 28, 2003 10:32 AM
I reported this to the FBI and I received this:

DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS TRANSACTION!!!

Thank you for your submission of information via the FBI.Gov Web site.
In as much as the FBI receives reports of this type of activity on a
regular basis there is no need to forward any such additional emails to
the FBI.

A review of the information you provided revealed that you are being
approached over the Internet to participate in one of many variations
of
an advance fee scheme being perpetrated by individuals from various
West
African nations, particularly Nigeria. Victims have lost substantial
funds in the past and all requests for travel to foreign locations
should be ignored. Under your scenario, an individual from Africa
expresses interest in an item you are offering for sale and the
individual sends you a cashiers check for you to deposit. The check
they
sent you will more than likely appear to be legitimate and in many
cases
the bank may accept it. Unfortunately, five to ten days after making
the deposit, it is determined that the check is fraudulent and the bank
will hold you responsible for returing all of the money, which can
result in significant financial hardship to you. YOU SHOULD NOT
INTERACT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.

The United States Secret Service (USSS) has developed an excellent,
detailed description of this fraud scheme, which can be accessed at
http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml. If you have been
victimized
by one of these schemes, please forward appropriate written
documentation to the USSS, Financial Crimes Division, 950 H Street, NW,
Washington, D.C. 20223, or telephone (202) 406-5850. We encourage you
to
share this Web page with family and friends. Your continued cooperation
in this and other matters is greatly appreciated.

You do not need to forward the emails to us. If you have not, simply
delete them from your computer. Also, if you know that you are
receiving spam mail, it is advisable not to open them, because even if
you do not reply, your email address has been validated by the sender.
And, you may get other spam mail.
re: Offers from Nigeria?bkrboy
Feb 5, 2003 8:44 AM
I too recieved an offer for full price for my bike. It was from "steve anderson" or Andersonautos. He wanted to have his "client" in the US that owed him money send me a cashiers check for 8000$ and I take out my part and wire him the rest with the bike (which would have cost another 800$ for shipping) I thought now way does this sound right. And he wanted me to ship it to a neighboring country Benin Republic. I kept asking quesions like where did he see the add and what kind of bike he had. But he never answered, I could tell he didn't care about the bike just the transaction it self.
re: Offers from Nigeria?gttrek
Feb 16, 2003 4:59 PM
I wish these crooks just go somewhere else, instead of trying to scam bikers.
I just got one too....SS_MB-7
Feb 18, 2003 10:41 AM
I just received the following email from a "John Smith" smithmotors2000@yahoo.com

Good day,

On behalf of my client i wish to buy the aboved named item i'll instruct a coleague of mine in the us to pick it up and arrange the shipping to Lagos Nigeria.Please get in touch with me right away so as to arrange payment immediately.

Yours Sincerely,

smith john
I got a worthless $7000 check!Oneheart
Feb 25, 2003 10:16 AM
Wow! what an ongoing scam... I had no idea. Same story: guy e-mails me to send me $7000 ("from a client in the USA")for my bike, I deduct the price of the bike and send him the balance. I said no to this arrangement but would be happy to sell him the bike for a cashiers check on a US bank for the correct sale price. Last week I get an e-mail saying the check has been sent Fed-Ex. It shows up at my house and it's a check for $7000. I e-mail him back asking what's up since I never authorized this arrangement and he writes back the following:

"i have not heard from you,i need you to send the
balance via western union money transfer to my
secretary who will be at to receive the money for me
as i travel a lot,here is his information:
MR HENRY DANESI
24 COKER ROAD
ILUPEJU LAGOS
NIGERIA.
i will also need you to provide me with the following
for the western union :sender's name and address,test
question and answer,control number and amount sent.i
need you to send the money today,to enable pay my
agent as he insists that he gets paid before he
contacts you for the pick up of the bicycle.
thanks and God bless."

I called the bank the check was drawn on (Ohio State Bank) and asked if the check was any good. After some search they told me not to cash the check, it was no good and I gave them info for their fraud department. I wrote him back (onwueze rapheal [onwuraph@yahoo.com]) and told him I had checked with the bank and his check was no good. I've not heard anything back from him.
Seller beware!!!