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UNPROFESSIONAL Trader STEVE MARTIN - PHOENIX, AZ(7 posts)

UNPROFESSIONAL Trader STEVE MARTIN - PHOENIX, AZdlbdan
Jun 4, 2002 5:06 PM
Steve had a Litespeed Tsali for sale and I agreed to buy it. I phoned him 2 times while I waited for him to set up a C2IT account, mainly because I know better than to send a money order to someone I do not know. Both times he stated that I would receive an invoice later that night. I also sent three emails expressing my interest in his bike. Tonight I got in touch with him for the 3rd time to find out that he had sold it to a friend locally. This is extremely UNPROFESSIONAL behavior. I would not trust this guy unless you go to his house and view the merchandize prior to the purchase. It's all about character or the lack there of.
re: UNPROFESSIONAL Trader STEVE MARTIN - PHOENIX, AZjasonwa
Jun 4, 2002 6:50 PM
what is an C2it account?
re: UNPROFESSIONAL Trader STEVE MARTIN - PHOENIX, AZSingleBleeder
Jun 5, 2002 11:19 AM
Citibank's version of Paypal. Better in that there are no fees, kind of clunky performance, doesn't have the refined Paypal features.

Link To C2IT Link To AOL QuickCash
re: UNPROFESSIONAL Trader STEVE MARTIN - PHOENIX, AZducman
Jun 7, 2002 11:45 AM
Stop your whining...

You lost nothing more than a few bucks on a couple phone calls.. If he can sell it locally, not have to deal with potential issues of nonpayment and or shipping problems than he has the right to do it.

This is not a trust issue... get off your soapbox..
Think out of the box, MORON !getinthesufferzone
Jun 8, 2002 8:34 AM
The POINT of the whole situation is that the seller made a verbal commitment to sell the Litespeed to dlbdan. And F.Y.I. ducman verbal agreements are considered to be binding agreements by law! The problem is that hardly anyone can ever prove it because they dont carry around tape recorders with them and its illegal to tape phone conversations in most states without the permission of the other party.

Not to mention the fact that if Steve had any honor whatsoever, he would not weasel out and take the scum-bag easy way out and sell it to a local AFTER he had already agreed to sell it to someone else. Even if he has no conscience as a business man, you would think that Steve would at least have the backbone not to go back on an agreement with a fellow mountain biker. Crap, camaraderie is supposed to be one of the best attributes of our sport.

I would never ride with Steve much less deal with him.

And unless, you work at the local Burger King where your personal time means NOTHING - dlbdan is out much more than - as you say -nothing more than a few bucks on a couple phone calls.

Steve wasted dlbdans time and TIME is MONEY but for you ducman; its probably about $5/hour so you can not grasp the true damages in this case. Not to mention the fact that while dlbdan was wasting his time with slime ball Steve, he may have given up one or two other potential deals that got away in the interim.

Verdict

Dlbdan is a Good consumer advocate for Trader forum at mtbreview.

Slime ball Steve Always takes the EASIEST line on the trail, as well in life, even if other people have the right-of-way; because after all, the whole world revolves around Steves convenience.

Ducman is a Moron of the 1st order.

By the way, all you riffraff out there that back out of deals for one reason or another, if you have anything for sale do not hesitate to deal with ducman because he does not find anything wrong with that type of behavior! So, go ahead, waste his time !
Think out of the box, MORON !ducman
Jun 12, 2002 10:21 AM
hey 'getinthesufferzone' back off.. the only suffering you'll be doing is if I get my hands on you and split your skull open.

I've had more than one person commit to deals then back out when something has come up or they change their minds.. I didn't find it necessary to smear their names on this site.. I don't appreciate you smearing mine... and if you had any brains you would keep your simple minded opinions stuck in your simple mind.
I can just see the ducman as a.......getinthesufferzone
Jun 12, 2002 3:02 PM
Telephone counselor at a rape crisis call-in center......

Female caller- I've just been raped up the arse !

Ducman- Stop your winning lady!

Female caller- But I feel like committing suicide!

Ducman- You've lost nothing more that having to go out and buy some Metamucil because all that's happened is that you got your sh*t packed!

Female caller- But I feel so violated and he is a slime ball ANIMAL !

Ducman- Look lady, I've had more than one person pack my sh*t when I was in juvenile hall I didn't find it necessary to smear their names!

Hey ducman,
If you've had more than one person commit to deals then back out when something has come up or they change their minds and you STILL criticized dlbdan for alerting us to Steveo as a bad trader

then I'm sorry because I completely misread you- you are not a moron of the first order, you are dumber than dumb- you a moron of the ULTIMATE order. (can't you tell folks, I run Avids!)

Of course that would account for your handle "ducman" i.e. a fornicater of farm animals.

Nasty, nasty boy. You've been in that barn toooo long!