Feb 3, 2004 12:34 PM
|When I do a ride, I normally do about 80km for an average ride, never any more than that. I will often take a bar or two, along with 1.5L of water/gatorade/etc. Now, if I was to go twice the distance I could take more food with ease but I couldn't with water. How do people take enough fluids for long rides? I suppose stopping at a store along the way would be possible, provided a route was choosen correctly. However, I would like to know other solutions, most of my routes go off in the middle of no where.|
|Stop & refill the water bottles...||PdxMark|
Feb 3, 2004 12:38 PM
|either with water at a park, gas station, or store, or buy bottled something, like water, Gatorade, etc.
Or, get a water pack. I have a water pack that I bring along on long rides. Two water bottles & a water pack will get me through all but the hottest & hilliest centuries.
|Camelback or extra bottles in jersey (nm)||hrv|
Feb 3, 2004 12:43 PM
Feb 3, 2004 12:44 PM
|A 100 oz. Camelback and water bottles (if needed) will give you as much water as you need.|
Feb 3, 2004 12:43 PM
|I come from the world of MTBing and my camelbak blowfish is great for storing food, drinks and other essentials. The weigh on my back don't bother me. My bladder stores 100oz so its enough fluid for a long ride. You can drink water without having to reach down to the water bottle?|
|I got a M.U.L.E||witcomb|
Feb 3, 2004 12:47 PM
|I have a Camelbak MULE, taht is an option, I just don't like using it for my raod bike. I used it 2 or 3 times and it just doesn't feel right. While MTBing it is great, you barely notice it, but it is different on the road. A blowfish or something else nice and small might do a good job. I like the MULE cause I can pack it good, the storage is nice while MTBing.
I guess it is better than dehydration though.
|I use the MULE on the road....no probs for me. nm||Tower|
Feb 3, 2004 1:39 PM
|Yeah, the MULE kicks ASS! (nm)||hrv|
Feb 3, 2004 2:33 PM
|planning and storage||DougSloan|
Feb 3, 2004 12:44 PM
|After you ride a route a bunch of times, you'll come to know every convenience store and water spigots along the way. I can ride just about anywhere in a 100 mile radius and get free water, as I know where to look (lots of times c-stores have water spigots outside to hose down the parking lot -- never found a problem using one). I've done up to 250 miles unsupported doing this.
When it's really, really hot (105+) here, especially when I was training for a 508 mile race in the desert, and I don't want to stop much, I'll use an 80 ounce Camelbak plus 4 water bottles, 2 on the frame and 2 behind the saddle. I don't do this for hilly rides, though. You can get 32 ounce water bottles (Zefal), so that's more than 1 1/2 gallons of water with you. If you wanted to get really nutty, you could add a handlebar bottle and use a 100 ounce Camelbak instead.
Even with 2 large bottles, you should only need to stop for water about every 2 hours, and if you get only water, that's not for very long.
|planning and storage||105|
Feb 3, 2004 1:19 PM
|churches always, always have a spigot outside somewhere on the building. no church member or pastor is going to deny you water if you ask or mind if nobody is there.|
|What was the name of that 508 mile race?||KRider|
Feb 3, 2004 3:01 PM
|Where was it? Is that the ride that you were asking about the fixie-brake dilemma?
Feb 3, 2004 4:18 PM
Feb 3, 2004 5:07 PM
|you know Kosman's planning to have a 508 randonneuring event||RealCyclopatic|
Feb 4, 2004 6:37 AM
|on adjoining weekend, count me in. Now I'd need tips on surviving in desert. WHat is route like? How far apart are the places you can get water from? How hot does it get? what is the water consumption rate?|
|If you read that link, it gives you a lot of info...||KRider|
Feb 4, 2004 9:45 AM
|Wow Doug, I'm impressed! That ride sounds insane...I'm gonna have to give it a go one of these days!
I really like long-distance cycling. Hopefully I'll be able to do a ride up to Flagstaff this spring (round trip prolly around 300 miles). Should be interesting!
Thanks for the link and the read!
|re: bigger bottles?||RealCyclopatic|
Feb 3, 2004 1:20 PM
|Performance sells Zefal Mega bottles (32oz/.9l), 2 of these babies will get you father. You can also drink 8-16oz (.25-5l) just before you start ride, put smaller 20oz (.6l) bottle in jersey pocket and drink it first.
And of cause you can use Cbak, some of them fit 100oz/3L but in hot weather it will make you sweat more, and it becomes really uncomfortable to carry something heavy on your back after 5-8hr.
On most organized rides, brevets, etc water isn't problem, you can get it at checkpoints.
|re: Unsupported century||Sean OConnor|
Feb 3, 2004 2:21 PM
|I use large water bottles, and preload ziplock baggies with whatever powdered energy drink I'm using, so I just need water. I don't mind a camelback mountain biking, but I always like not having it on the road. You can easily carry 5 or 6 servings of accelerade, etc., in your jersey pockets.|
|re: Unsupported century||Andy M-S|
Feb 3, 2004 3:02 PM
|I do somewhat the same, even on supported centuries if I have any questions. I load powdered Gatorade into single-serving bags and tuck them in a saddle or Hbar bag, and I'm religious about filling my water bottles if I see any kind of water source and I'm less than half-full.|
|re: Unsupported century||soulsurfer104|
Feb 3, 2004 8:57 PM
|it's simple: one water bottle on the down tube, one on the seat-tube, and two in the seatpost-mounted bottle-cages. i did 100.92 windy, somewhat-hilly miles on a warm, sunny day, and still had a half a bottle left when i got home.|
|Good ideas, normal 160-200km training rides||Spunout|
Feb 4, 2004 6:01 AM
|portion out dry mix in film cannisters, work very well and are re-useable.
Mix up your food, try some bread, fig newtons, bananas, energy bars, and 300 Cal. gels. Remember, those 75 Cal gels will buy you 20 minutes on the road, no more. Extran and Enervit make the real thing, 300 Calories a shot, great once per hour.
Usually plan to stop for water, I only carry two bottles, so can stop halfway for a refill.
|re: Unsupported century||aliensporebomb|
Feb 4, 2004 5:25 AM
|When I did my century attempt this past summer, I used my
Camelbak Lobo which has nearly the storage capacity of the
Mule but not the weight. Instead of 100 ounces of water I
believe it's 90 something (which is still pretty good).
I have enough space for spare tubes, energy bars,
fig newtons, small boxes of raisins, a few patch kits,
a pocket for change (in case my cell dies and need to
make a phone call), tire levers, you name it it's
probably in there.
The day I did the attempt it was 103 degrees out and I
went thru three reservoirs and realized I was doing an
insane act when I ran into the lady pushing a Quintana
Roo after having run out of water at 65 miles somewhere.
|Quicky Marts - The cyclists friend||bimini|
Feb 4, 2004 11:01 AM
|Even in IOWA most small towns have a quicky mart of some sort. Gatoraid, water, snickers bars and a john, what more do you need.
I have ran dry before I got close to a quicky mart. In that case I go to any kind of business that is open and ask if I can get some water. Rural folk in general are friendly and more than willing to help out. I have even asked folks out in their front yards or near their houses if I could fill up the bottles. I have always gotten a friendly yes and pleasent conversation.
If you are really away from it there is a reason for the three pockets in the back of the jersey, 3 disposable bottles in the jersey along with the all food you can cram in with it plus two bottles on the bike. If it is even further in nowhere I have a handlebar bag I can snap on and even a rack in the rear for the tent, clothes, etc.