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Mr. C-40, I need some help on Fondriest Carbon Lex spec.(8 posts)

Mr. C-40, I need some help on Fondriest Carbon Lex spec.divve
Jan 30, 2004 9:31 AM
Hi, I'm getting ready to the pull the trigger on one instead of going with good old Cannondale again.

As you probably know I currently ride a CAAD7 size 58cm c-t, 57.5cm c-c top tube, 17.3cm head tube, 73deg. seat tube, 73.5deg. head tube). In comparison to the Fondriest specs on their Italian website I've found their size XL (57) to be the closest match. Do you agree on this point?

Also, could you tell me the upper stack height of their DDS headset and do you know whether their frame is compatible with the Campagnolo 1-1/8 Hiddenset?

Finally, for verification:
Front derailleur clamp should it be a 35mm diameter Campagnolo?
Seatpost 29.4mm?

Thanks.
i'm not the fit-master that c40 is, but i think i can help...Bonked
Jan 30, 2004 10:51 AM
just went through the same thing buying a fondy top level. my best piece of advice would be to call the importers (http://www.fondriest-usa.com/fondriest.php?section=contact). i've spoken to them before and, unlike many high-end bike manufacturers/importers, they are extremely helpful. the guy i spoke to said to size their frames based on top tube length as they are a sloping geometry...therefore, you seem closer to an xxl in the carb lex (top tube of 58) rather than an xl (top tube of 56). of course, depending on your current stem length, you might be able to get away with the xl with a longer stem.

don't know the stack height or if it is compatible with a campy headset, but the DDS on my bike seems pretty nice...why mess with it?

on the derailleur and seatpost, i would talk to them directly to confirm this, but the seatpost does seem to be a 29.4 (listed on the website) and the frame should come with a seatpost, so no problem there. their website doesn't list derailleur clamp size, but my top level (seat post of 27.2) uses a 32 derailleur, so my guess is that the carb lex would use a 35.

again, i would just call the guys at the p4 group and ask them directly.

good luck!
Thanks for the info but...divve
Jan 30, 2004 11:10 AM
.....I'm currently in Europe and buying the frame locally. I've already spoken to the local distributor and those were the specs they gave me. The main confusion indeed lies in the frame size. The US site states 56cm top tube for the XL, but the official Fondriest site states 57. I don't know who to believe cause not a single top tube size matches the US website spec except for the XXL...in theory the Lex should have the same geometry at the Top Carbon and those sizes do appear to correspond with the official spec again???
interesting!Bonked
Jan 30, 2004 3:11 PM
don't know that i can help in that case! i didn't know that you are in europe. my carb level seems spot on with the us specs, but i'll probably confirm this tonight now that i am curious! in any event, i would probably go with whatever the local rep says they have. any chance you could go see (and measure) one before you buy?
interesting!divve
Jan 30, 2004 9:28 PM
If I recall correctly C-40 also mentioned certain specs were wrong somewhere. We'll have to wait until he responds to be sure however:)

I can't measure anything personally as the frame size I think I want isn't currently in stock. If they're wrong I'm sure I can give the frame back but I'd rather not go through that.
don't know what to tell you...Bonked
Jan 31, 2004 7:22 AM
sorry i couldn't have been more help! i did just measure my frame and the us measurements seem to be perfect. of course, they aren't making the carb level anymore, so i can't confirm what the measurements given by the euro site would have been.

good luck...
Can't help...C-40
Jan 31, 2004 7:25 AM
These frames are brand new. When there is a discrepancy in the geometry tables, only the manufacturer or dealer can provide a correct answer. I found that my Fondriest MDC had a 1cm shorter front center dimension than the charts stated. Didn't even think to check it until I noticed that I had some toe overlap.

The integreated headsets on the Fondriest frames are also new. I asked about them when I called the US distributor and he was clueless. He suggested calling the local bike shop that sells Fondriest (Red Rocks Cyclery in Morrison, CO).

My best guess is that the largest size is too big, considering the long head tube length. If the XL size really only has a 56cm TT, then it depends on whether a 130mm stem is long enough for you. If not, this may not be the frame for you.

If you're buying locally, can't the dealer provide the necessary info?
Can't help...divve
Jan 31, 2004 8:37 AM
It's not a real problem. I'll be able to verify it with my dealer or the distributor after they call the factory. Although, it would have been nice if someone could've verified it here as an independent source.

(Yep. The XL is definitely too large. I don't think I'll be able to get my handlebar low enough on that frame due to the tall head tube and I'd rather also not go less than a 120 stem).

Thanks both for helping out.