Jan 29, 2004 2:57 PM
|Are DT Hubs nice? I am looking at some '03 Bontrager Race X Lites that apparently come with DT Hubs. I'm looking for info and thoughts on both the hubs and wheels in general. I am a triathlete mainly, but a friend has convinced me to try some Cat5 road races to change things up this spring. Let me know what you think about the hubs and wheels. Thanks.|
|re: DT Hubs?||laffeaux|
Jan 29, 2004 3:00 PM
|Dt Swiss makes two hubs, the Onyx and the Hugi 240 (now called just "240"). The Hugi hub is one of the best hubs on the market - very light and durable. The Onyx is an average quality hub.
I believe that the Race X-Lites use the Hugi hub.
|re: DT Hubs?||oddsos|
Jan 30, 2004 3:29 AM
|I've got a set of Hugi 240's laced onto Open Pros. The hubs seem relatively well sealed and smooth rolling. The click on the free wheel is loud, but not distrctingly so. It also oscillates between loud and soft. This is due to the design of the star ratchet and not a warning of immanent wheel failure.
The free hub body is aluminium and does tend to get a little cut up by the sprockets of the cassette. If the sprockets are attached to aluminium carriers this helps to minimise damage to the free hub.
Overall I'd say the Hugi 240 are good solid hubs. They haven't done anything spectacular, but they haven't let me down either.
|More on Hugi hubs...||KEN2|
Jan 30, 2004 7:43 AM
|If the Hugi ratchets get loud it's a sign they need grease. DT makes a special grease that they recommend, and they'll send some out free if you call them. You can pull the cassette off easily (they say no tools) and get to the ratchets and springs.
I'd say they are better than good, solid hubs. They are among the lightest and strongest hubs available.
|Comparative wts. DA vs. Hugi||KEN2|
Jan 30, 2004 9:11 AM
|Hugi front hub = 94 grams
Shimano DA front hub = 177
Hugi rear = 235
Shimano DA rear = 375
Source: QBP online catalog
That's a half-pound total difference!
|The shimano weight included skewers.||divve|
Jan 30, 2004 10:01 AM
|Personally, I'm not too impressed with the Hugi 240 hubs. Don't get me wrong the quality is pretty good, but the product finish on DA or Record hubs is better at less cost.
Regarding service, I recommend the Park Tool axle clamp to pull the hub loose. Contrary to their "no tools" concept it can be quite hard to get off if you just pull on the cassette.
|first ones had loose bearings||cyclopathic|
Jan 30, 2004 10:32 AM
|in front wheel, resulted in less then perfect steering. DT replaced bearings with tighter ones under warranty. Other then that hubs have been o'k, I don't use this wheelset that much. However, bearings won't last as long as cone/cup type, you can't service them and there's no adjustment for wear like on Mavic hubs. When you get play you'd have to replace cartridge bearings to fix it.|
Jan 30, 2004 10:54 AM
|I've had to replace the bearings in my set (used on a MTB), and they're cheap, but one set requires a special tool to remove. Admitedly they're not as easy to maintain as a Shimano hub, but they are MUCH lighter, and otherwise perform just as well.|
|They can't be that MUCH lighter than the DA.||JohnnyCat|
Jan 30, 2004 2:21 PM
|What is the weight of the DA hubs without the skewers?|
|Here you go (Without skewers.)............||B2|
Jan 30, 2004 4:59 PM
|Front and rear hubs combined:
DA (9 spd) 429g
DA (10 spd)392g
Chris King 354g
Hugi 240 329g
American Classic 303g
Used guess on Shimano skewer weight (assumed similar to Campy?)
|Thanks Bryan! Now I can Sleep Tonight.||JohnnyCat|
Jan 30, 2004 7:24 PM
|Buy the smoothest and don't let weight cloud your judjement when it comes to picking out hubs.
Just over a fourth of a pound seperate the lightest to the heaviest. Hub weight is not nearly as important as rim or spoke weight. Since the weight is centered, centrifical forces just can't make a fourth of a pound act that much differently. If that weight differnce would be at the rims, then you would have an issue.
Does anybody agree?