|All this talk about beer. But anyone drink 3 buck Chuck?||Fez|
Jan 26, 2004 9:06 AM
|After a good ride, does anyone drink that real cheap wine Charles Shaw? Its like 3 bucks a bottle.
It was featured on ABC Primetime Live and I was at Trader Joe's grocery store and folks were buying it by the case.
Am I missing something, or is it just another really cheap wine?
Jan 26, 2004 9:19 AM
|It's only $1.99, and if you have ever had good wine, you'll recognize it immediately as crap. Good enough for cooking, and good enough for a backyard party, but that's about it. Increase your budget to $7-10 and you'll find a lot better stuff within arms reach.
I was standing in line at Trader Joe's one time and two women were behind me talking about how great the stuff was. They went on an on as if it were Cask #23, and I wanted to turn around and say, IT'S NOT GOOD WINE! IT'S SWILL! But I didn't.
I have one bottle in my house, but it's holding open a door. It makes a cool doorstop!
|Its up to $3.29.||Fez|
Jan 26, 2004 9:27 AM
|On Primetime Live it was referred to as 2 buck chuck.
All that national exposure resulted in a 65% price increase?
|most likely...that's how wine pricing works||ColnagoFE|
Jan 26, 2004 9:55 AM
|As soon as someone discovers a good value for the $ the price gets jacked up. Supply and demand folks.|
|Don't believe the hype.||ElvisMerckx|
Jan 26, 2004 9:21 AM
|Anyone can hit a homerun with a $40 bottle of wine. The trick to wine connoisseurship is hitting a homerun for only $7-10.
3 buck Chuck (until recently '2 buck Chuck') is a bunt at best.
Jan 26, 2004 9:34 AM
|I can't find any drinkable wine under $10. Napa Vally can't produce anything good under $20, and all the good table wine from Italy get marked up 4x for the US (so expect to pay $15-20 for the half-decent Italian stuff). And Chilean wines are just too heavy for me. So I mostly drink beer these days.|
|there are tons of good wines for under $10||ColnagoFE|
Jan 26, 2004 10:01 AM
|Look to Australia for some of my faves. I usually pay $5-6 a bottle for most of the stuff I drink peppered with some $10-15 bottles for special occasions. I rarely to never spend more than $20 for a bottle of wine. I lucked out and found a shop specializing in affordable wine. I now know which ones to pick up and I stock up every few weeks. I tend to like big fruity wines like the Shiraz, Zins, and sweeter Cabs and Merlots so your taste may vary, but I'm guessing you just are shopping in the worng places or are hitting wines that don't agree with your tastebuds.|
Jan 26, 2004 10:24 AM
|not a big fan of the Aussies, either. We probably just have slightly different tastes--I don't like the heavier, fruitier stuff. I prefer Italian grapes like Sangiovese, Dolcetto, Barbera, etc., that produce lighter table wines with some bite and character--you can sometimes find decent versions of these under $12 or maybe even under $10 if you're lucky. I agree, though, a good wine shop can make a big difference.|
|A good wine shop is your best bet, for sure||innergel|
Jan 26, 2004 1:59 PM
|Get to know the wine guys and they'll hook you up with some good deals. Trying to find a really good bottle for under $10 is a great trick. There are some decent French wines that can be had for <$10. I've also found wines that are blended from several types of grapes can be very good, and reasonably priced.
Another option you might consider is having a $10 wine party. You can invite several people over and tell them all to bring a bottle of wine that costs less than $10. Have a blind tasting and have everyone vote on their favorite. This way, you'll get to sample a bunch of different wines and only spend $10. Plus, you may just find a couple of new one's you would have never tried. It almost becomes a contest as to who can find the best wine for the least amount of cash. We do this a couple of times a year with 8-10 couples and we always have fun.
Jan 28, 2004 10:44 PM
|I'm an oenophile, and one on a budget. Near me, there are 2 independant wine shops. One is owned by an Italian, and he's always got good inexpensive Italian wines. You won't reckognize any of the labels, and he rarely gets more of them, but he's always got many good wines under $9/bottle.
The other shop imports wines (once again under names that you wouldn't reckognize), and they have an excellent collection of French wines. They get some Grand Cru burgundy 'overruns' which are labeled as just plain wine. Imagine getting a Clos Veugeot 1989 for $19/ bottle! They also import many 'right bank' bordeaux's. You can get 2000 vintage for about $7/bottle.
As far as going to the winery-forget it. Wineries know that you are coming out to them for an 'adventure', and they jack up prices accordingly. You can get the same wine for 20% cheaper in a good sized wine store.
Jan 26, 2004 9:43 AM
|Meh. It's not horrible in a cheap wine kind of way, but it's not the ultra great wine that many are hyping it as, IMHO.
Check your area for a local winery. Though it won't be $3, you will likely find some good deals on some good wines. You should be able to get a taste in. Plus, you might be able to structure a ride out of a tasting (so long as you don't over-indulge).
Here in Cincinnati, off the Little Miami ("Loveland") Multi-Use Trail, there is a winery, Valley Vineyards. Good wines, good prices (<$10, most around $7/bottle), and they are quite accommodating to cyclists.
|On the other end of the spectrum - Silver Oak is excellent.||outofthesaddle|
Jan 26, 2004 2:56 PM
|Silver Oak Cellars was one of the sponsors for our cyclo-cross team this season (you can see the logo on the sleeve). In addition, they were one the sponsors for the CX race at Infineon Raceway. They make excellent wine and support cycling too - what a great combo! Tim Duncan, their VP of sales is an avid cyclist who rides 5K miles a year and does double centuries and even some road racing.
|re: All this talk about beer. But anyone drink 3 buck Chuck?||mapei boy|
Jan 26, 2004 3:00 PM
|The first moment Two Buck Chuck ever hit my mouth, I said wow. This stuff is good. But by the time I'd swallowed that first sip, though, I realized how miserable the stuff really was. I couldn't finish more than half a glass. I threw the rest out. I realized that Two Buck Chuck is bad wine masquerading as good wine.|
|for $3 though what do you really expect? (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jan 27, 2004 7:46 AM
|Well... I'm not sucking it down every night...||Chicago_Steve|
Jan 26, 2004 5:01 PM
|I live about 3 blocks from a TJ's and was an "early Adopter" of $3 Chuck. It's nothing special but it's fine for most people. I bought a case over the holidays and used it for mulled wine. With a little sugar, cloves, and cinnamon I was feeling alright ;-)|
|heck...cheap Gallo jug wine tastes good for mulled wine (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jan 27, 2004 7:47 AM
|Many people will enjoy this wine||Bacco|
Jan 26, 2004 7:14 PM
|A fellow wine lover gave me a bottle of Charles Shaw Merlot to try. He had bought some in VA for around $3 a bottle for some friends who wanted to try it. I'm not a California Merlot drinker, but for $3 this wine was a bargain - it's pleasant and cleanly made. It compares favorably to Merlots costing 3 times as much (hmmm, that's still not a lot of money). Personally, I lament the good old days when I was happy drinking wine like this. It's a curse when your taste buds mature and you fall in love with $50-100+ wines because then that's all you enjoy anymore. I guess it's like the fun you had when you were learning to ride your first bike. Now you ride $6000 carbon or titanium bikes, but the fun isn't any greater than it was on that first $50 Schwinn. All this talk about wine and fun makes me want to grab a bottle of Insignia out of the cellar, but I will settle for a good Argentine Malbec to finish off the evening. Remember that "A day without wine [or biking] is like a day without sunshine."|
|Your last sentence reminds me of a quote...||Chicago_Steve|
Jan 27, 2004 6:38 AM
|"To prepare for a race there is nothing better than a good pheasant, some champagne and a woman." -- Jacques Anquetil|
|I've had a couple $20 bottles that I didn't like||ColnagoFE|
Jan 27, 2004 7:51 AM
|It's not always about price...more about buying what you like. I can usually tell a big difference between a $6 bottle of wine and a $20 bottle. Less difference between the $20 and $50 or higher wine. Sorta like bikes. You experience diminishing returns after a certain price point. That said--there are plenty of drinkable wines under $10. Funny thing is that some days my taste buds will like a certain wine and the next day I don't. Depends on the day and what I might be eating with it. Sometimes you get lucky and the food and wine match perfectly (a big zin and pizza is a great combo).|
|If you like big zin...||innergel|
Jan 27, 2004 11:56 AM
|then try Rosenblum - Oakley Vineyards Zinfandel, assuming you can find it. Yowza! That stuff is great. On New Years Eve, the restaurant substituted this bottle when the Cline we ordered was sold out. It's unbelievably good. Even my wife loved it, and she's not really a fan of big reds.|
|re: All this talk about beer. But anyone drink 3 buck Chuck?||snapdragen|
Jan 26, 2004 9:16 PM
|My dad adores Chuck - but then, Dad's, how shall we say it, "thrifty". I can drink the Merlot, the Chardonnay made my jaw hurt!
Speaking of wine, I was at that italian chain, Bepo di buppo or Bupo di beppo, Bibbity bobbity boop, WHATEVER! Any way, we had a merlot, Maestro Italiano that I kind of liked. I'm not wine expert, does anyone know if this is the restaurant's house wine, I can't find it locally (Bev and More, Cost Plus...)
|don't know about your wine, but my dad is the same as yours||ColnagoFE|
Jan 27, 2004 7:58 AM
|I open a bottle of good Zin and ask him if he likes it and he just says they all taste the same to him. Most often he'd rather just drink a Gin and tonic.|| |