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Are Zipp 404's too deep?(5 posts)

Are Zipp 404's too deep?trijunior
Jan 22, 2004 2:28 PM
I ride and race in Wisconsin. All races, but am planning on Park City this year too. Anyone ever run into conditions where 404's were unmanageable?
re: Are Zipp 404's too deep?CARBON110
Jan 22, 2004 2:37 PM
Only time I had issues with them was when two semi trucks with trailors went past me in opposite direction while I was going downhill at about 38mph. I thought for sure it was over but despite my bike being thrown all over the road I gently squeezed the brakes (rear first) pushed my for arms out straight to regain control ( which took a LONG time ) and put my ass above the rear wheel. The bike literally was moving 3 + feet back and forth like a bull attempting to throw you off. I passed a construction crew while this was taking place and they all ran out onto the road to make sure I didn't crash.

A few times on the parkway they wiggled abit but on flat roads I wouldnt worry at all. They are noticably faster then anyother wheel especially if they are tubulars. I had both clincher and tubies both now just have tubies.
re: thanks, one moretrijunior
Jan 22, 2004 3:43 PM
thanks for the help. my 5900, couldn't get a hold of a madone until late july, aaaaarrrggghhh, will come with x lites. would you feel the need to get anything other than 404's? Also, how is the braking during fast descents and in wet weather on the zipps?
re: thanks, one moreCARBON110
Jan 22, 2004 3:59 PM
Tubulars or Clinchers? Are you using the X-lites for training? The braking on the clinchers is pretty good and since you will be in flat races mostly? they will be fine. I would not use them myself in a large field if i weighed under 140lbs with a fast long decent that was going to carry you over 35-40mph. Often times a large field of riders can create turbulance. BUT, if you weigh say 140+ you should be fine in controling them. Tubular Zipps I would not use in wet conditions at all. Zipp clinchers do heat up alot but nothing to be overly concerned about. I hear you on the Madone....anyway good luck and let us know how you like them! On the flats you will notice they are faster then any of your other wheels even in head winds and crosswinds. Make sure you practice windy conditions to build confidence in your wheel handling capability. That way you will have no surprises. good luck
re: thanks, one moretrijunior
Jan 22, 2004 4:18 PM
Definitely tubulars on the zipps. I might go with tubular on the x-lites as well, but they will still have alu braking surface, so that shouldn't be a problem. I will use the x-lites in rainy or really bad conditions. I weight 160 now, 152 or so come racing time, so winds shouldn't be a problem.

thanks