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Surly cross-check ss???(10 posts)

Surly cross-check ss???stlman
Jan 20, 2004 7:00 AM
Does anyone have a cross-check setup as a single speed for the road?? If so can you point me to some pictures as well as offer any advice on building up my first single speed with this frame??

Thanks.
re: Surly cross-check ss???blackhat
Jan 20, 2004 8:17 AM
my CC is singled right now for the winter, dont have any pics up though. have you bought the drivetrain components yet? My best advice would be to either use a dedicated ss rear hub with track nuts or use a steel (non alloy) QR skewer in the rear if you use a cassette hub as Ive had a bit of wheel creep from not tightening the QR enough. I mix in some trails so Im running it 42x16 right now, using an old xt crank on a RF taperlock bb with a campy cassette hub so between the taperlock bb and the cassette hub I can get a perfect chainline. check the SS board at mtbr.com, I know theres at least one pic up of a CC single speed on hte new forums. if you havent bought a drivetrain yet, check chuck's bike, he had some ss hubs for 45 bucks and some relatively cheap cranks too last time I looked.
well...scrublover
Jan 20, 2004 8:22 AM
it is pretty easy to do, with the horozontal dropouts. just use either a good SS/flipflop hub and crank it tight to prevent slippage. or, if using a regular hub and spacers/cog setup, be sure to use a QR with steel faces on both ends, otherwise it will slip.



cranks are different now, but thats about it. settled on a 38 front ring, and 20t freewheel, with a 16t fixed side. that way i have a halfway decent gear for riding to the trails, and a low enough gear to swap to once i'm there.

how it looks now. rear wheel was swapped out for use on my road fixie. running surly hubs, switched out to QR. the rear is a bolt on QR, with the afore mentioned steel facings. no slippage so far.....

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlespeed.html
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlecross.html
Whoa....Chicago_Steve
Jan 20, 2004 10:31 AM
Something's up with the headset in those picts... Care to elaborate? Spacers?
long story....scrublover
Jan 20, 2004 10:46 AM
was in my old frame (now in it's own thread over on the fixie board) and i had the headtube extender in use under the top cup, to use less spacers. when i swapped things out, i couldn't get the cup/spacer to separate. lube/penetrating oil, large leverage tools, nothing worked. so i was going to set it up on top again, but thought i'd see how it did underneath. it marginally slowed the handling down, and raised the front end. i like it. coming from more of an mtb background, the higher front/slowed steering works for me.

in other words; be sure to use more anti-seize between the ti/aluminusm than i did!
re: Surly cross-check ss???biknben
Jan 20, 2004 8:44 AM
Check out my ride report at the top of the board. I rode it over the weekend as a SS. I typically commute FG with it.

There are a few options with this frame. You can use long-reach road caliper or canti brakes. I went with v-brakes because they were in my spare parts bin. I'm not happy with the dia-compe v-brake levers and would go with canti if I did it again.

For SS you can find a wheel with a threaded hub and use a bmx free wheel. A cheep option is to use a cassette hub and use extra spacers.

The cross-check is extremely versatile. I highly recommend it for those that want a frame that will do anything.
curious why you don't like those dia-compe levers.weatherx
Jan 20, 2004 9:21 AM
would you elaborate? tia
curious why you don't like those dia-compe levers.biknben
Jan 20, 2004 9:40 AM
The brakes don't fully retract or retract very sluggishly. This has been since day one. Even after I re-routed the cables and housing, and lubed the cables all nice nice. I suspect it's partially due to the weak springs in the brake lever. Other than that, they are not that comfortable and cost $50-$60.
Works better w. disk brakes.2melow
Jan 20, 2004 12:47 PM
or any brake where you can really crank down the spring tension on the brake end. I'm using mine with avid mech. disks.

I love them - but unfortunately I don't think you can put a disk up front unless you go with the 1x1 or karate monkey fork :(
D@mn, I like that bike. Great job......nmDave Hickey
Jan 20, 2004 11:02 AM