Jan 14, 2004 10:42 AM
|Do you have these Wheels? The Campy Neutrons, new for 2003? What other wheels have you ridden to compare them to? The ever popular, omnipresent Kyseriums? A pair of Speeddreams perhaps? Please, do tell.|
|Don't know about those, but know a little about Neutrinos.||hrv|
Jan 14, 2004 10:58 AM
|Neutrinos....they are very small,
they have no charge, and have no mass,
and do not interact at all!
The earth is just a silly ball to them,
through which they simply pass,
like dustmaids down a dusty hall,
or photons through a sheet of glass!
Above is from a John Updike poem, that I used in
an 11th grade public speaking class. Yeah, part of me
was a propeller head back then, what about it?!!
|A neutron walks into a bar...||OffTheBack|
Jan 14, 2004 11:25 AM
|has a couple of beers, gets ready to leave and asks the bartender for the bill.
The bartender says, "No charge".
|that took me a minute...||Bonked|
Jan 14, 2004 3:33 PM
|but i'm an engineer and had a good laugh once i did...|
|An electron, a proton and a neutron...||EvilDeer|
Jan 15, 2004 5:35 AM
|An electron, a proton, and a neutron walked into a bar which had a sign, "All drinks $1.00." The electron said, "Hey guys we only have $2.00 among the three of us". The proton said, don't worry there is no charge for the neutron. The electron said, "Are you sure?" The proton answered, "I'm positive."|
|Have 'em, love 'em, 16,000miles on 'em, no problems(nm)||Dream plus|
Jan 14, 2004 12:02 PM
|Awesome wheels.||Zonic Man|
Jan 14, 2004 12:18 PM
|I'm a big boy (210), true as hell, fast, fairly light, work great.
Highly recommended. FWIW, I bought them based on the comments made here.
|Neutrons vs Kysriums||boneman|
Jan 14, 2004 12:29 PM
|I have 2002 Neutrons which are a couple of grams heavier than the 2004's. Also 2001 Kysriums and 2003 Kysriums SL's. I like the Neutrons the best of all followed by the SL's. For me, the Neutrons feel livelier and more responsive, a completely subjective comment. The Mavic's seem stiffer in vertical compliance and the originals are bomb proof for my purposes.
One note, I totaled the front Neutron and the replacement parts are not as widely available and more expensive than the Kystriums. This includes the replacement rim and spokes. There's a lot of talk about the difficulty of mounting tires on the Campag's but I've not experienced that problem.
All that being said, a pair of handbuilt wheels using Ambrosio Excellight rims, Sapim CX-Ray spokes and Record or Dura Ace hubs would be cheaper and offer similar performance. If you've got a great builder, that's the way to go although the pre-built's are easier to acquire and potentially easier to repair/rebuild. I have a great builder and have a set built with Excellights, Sapim Lasers and Phil hubs. Performance is as good as the Neutrons and Kysriums.
I wouldn't compare the wheels you mentioned with something built using the ubiquitous Mavic Open Pro's. I feel that the rims on the Kysriums and Neutrons have better extrusion and machining than the OP's. I also feel that the Ambrosio's are better than the OP's for the same reasons.
|re: Neutrons? Anybody?||lyleseven|
Jan 14, 2004 2:50 PM
|I have Neutrons (02s), SLs, Speedreams, and OPs. I like them all for different reasons. The Neutrons are great but harder to true due to the way they are built. Crashed them but repaired okay. I like them for climbing and they are as comfortable as the SLs, another great wheel. The Speedreams are tremendous wheels with the White hubs. All around, my favorite wheel and about 50-100 bucks cheaper than the Neutrons. The OPs are heavier, but great all around training wheel. It is a bit harder to get tires on and off the Neutrons.|
|I've got a pair of the Speeddream too||cyclinseth|
Jan 15, 2004 5:26 AM
|How are your Speeddreams built? Type and number of spokes? Spoke pattern? Type of rim? Is there a noticable difference between them and the Nutrons?|| |