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My two new rides(23 posts)

My two new ridessiclmn
Jan 9, 2004 12:43 PM
My custom made Davidson. The factory,which is in back of the store is 30 min from my house. I had the bike 3 weeks after I ordered it. This is a 17.6 lb bike.
re: My two new ridessiclmn
Jan 9, 2004 12:49 PM
It rides like a dream.
re: My two new ridessiclmn
Jan 9, 2004 12:56 PM
re: My two new ridessiclmn
Jan 9, 2004 3:36 PM
re: My two new ridessiclmn
Jan 10, 2004 12:36 PM
Jeez, next time spring for color film (nm)Crankist
Jan 9, 2004 9:03 PM
Interesting like mine.Zonic Man
Jan 9, 2004 12:51 PM
My first IF, that is.

If its custom, why all the spacers?
Interesting like mine.siclmn
Jan 9, 2004 1:04 PM
I did not want an ugly sloping top tube.
Jan 9, 2004 1:08 PM
Dude he's got like 0 drop to the bars!!! custom or not I'd like to see it done w/o spacers.
Also look at that seatpost there's barely any there. He couldn't have gone any longer in the headtube without seriously jepoardizing the safety of the boys on every dismount.
Jan 9, 2004 1:18 PM
I am not a young man anymore and I can't ride with my head below my ass like some of you guys do. But I can still ride 100 miles in comfort without by back aching on this bike. It fits me perfectly. There are no rules for fit only guidelines and they don't apply to everybody.
i agree... i think you got it perfect. (nm)Frith
Jan 9, 2004 1:31 PM
That was a great response!Fez
Jan 9, 2004 4:12 PM
I was waiting for the usual RBR inquiries about the seatpost and stack height, and I think this was the best response I have heard to date:

"I am not a young man anymore and I can't ride with my head below my ass like some of you guys do. But I can still ride 100 miles in comfort without by back aching on this bike."

Nice bike, BTW!
Great reply.KG 361
Jan 10, 2004 9:42 AM
If it fits YOU and YOU are comfortable on it, that's all that matters. Scr*w the stem police. BTW-nice bike =)
What to do?Nessism
Jan 9, 2004 1:11 PM
Seems that there are three options regarding how to get the bars up where they belong:

- Extend the head tube above the top tube.

- Use a long head tube, compromising stand-over clearance in the front, and a sloping top tube.

- Live with the spacers.

What is best?

4th option...biknben
Jan 9, 2004 1:34 PM
I'm not the stem police. I'm just throwing out another option.

4.) Flip stem and remove half the spacers.

Does the bike fit? Apperently so!!! Enjoy many rides with it.
5th option...russw19
Jan 9, 2004 4:03 PM
You don't have to flip the stem, just get one that is not as negative a rise. I didn't have much steerer tube to work with when I bought my frame. The fork was already cut and my frame was built for a pro rider who likes his bars lower than I do. I faced the problem of needing my stem about 1 to 1.5 cm higher than I could get them with a -17 stem. So I got a Deda 86 degree. That puts my stem on a +13 degree rise from parallel to the top tube. It's not that much, but put my stem in the perfect position for me.

I have another bike that I use a 90 degree stem. It's a Control Tech quill, but they don't have much room to raise those. So the 90 (or +17 from the top tube) is perfect.

There are all kinds of choices out there to make your bike fit you. But that's just it, it has to fit YOU... not anyone on this board. Who cares if someone uses spacers to make their bike comfortable to ride 100 mile day? At least that guy is putting in the miles and not sitting on the couch!

By the way, bikenben, even though I replied to your post... that last rant wasn't directed at you... but all the "spacer police" types out there that just love to knock down some guy's ride.

Spectacular Davidson by the way!

What to do?pina
Jan 9, 2004 7:36 PM
You don't have to compromise stand-over to extend the head tube. I see Axel Merckx and other tall pros riding frames with extended head tubes and the top tube not moved up. Seen Pegoretti's like this also.
Spacers are best...peter1
Jan 9, 2004 9:08 PM
...and cheapest. Usually with a new bike there's a period of adjustment. And then there are longer term changes, like a new set of pedals, shoes, or bars. that change the geometry a bit. I'd hate to cut my steer tube down to no spacers and lose any flexibility.

Having said that, the fewer spacers, the better the aesthetics!
Beautiful bike from a great Seattle builder...miposy
Jan 9, 2004 1:34 PM
My first custom mountainbike was a Davidson, and was a great bike. Your bike looks good to me, and good on ya using spacers, that will be very helpful as you try to find your optimal riding position. After the fact, for the purists you can buy a different stem and cut your steertube. Or, screw them and you can keep your spacers.

Have a great ride!

P.s. I'm note sure Bill's place should be called a factory, but it sure is a cool workshop. I'd buy another Davidson in a minute, though I ride a Strong Frame right now that I also love.
Record bottle cage.JS
Jan 9, 2004 3:26 PM
the epitome of conspicuous consumption?
Record bottle cage.siclmn
Jan 9, 2004 4:35 PM
It might be but I don't care. This is a time in my lift that I can buy a few things that I always wanted and the bike was one of them. I believe in doing some things 110% and I just had to get those cages.
Siclmn, how do you like theLazywriter
Jan 9, 2004 7:39 PM
Honda Element? I may be interested in this when my lease is up on my GTI. I need something a little more utilitarian. My VW is pretty quick and all, but I need more space but don't want some gas guzzling SUV. How is the Element as far as fit and finish? Is is cheap feeling or does it drive solid? Put a better picture up of it if you don't mind.
Siclmn, how do you like thesiclmn
Jan 9, 2004 10:00 PM
You need to drive one to really appreciate how good it is. For me it's like a zippy sports car and it's smooth and quiet. It rolls down the road at 80 if you want to. Best of all it's a Honda. To carry my bike I just roll it into the back and lay it down and I am ready to go.