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Frame advise needed...(5 posts)

Frame advise needed...853
Jan 9, 2004 11:13 AM
Opinions on 03 Orbea Vitesse frameset?
My LBS has a few of these frames left and is giving me a great deal on it.

Am I down grading by going to this from a Cannondale Caad5? I love my Cannondale, just need a little change and a better fit.

The Orbea uses Columbus Zonal tubing, I just need something as stiff as my Cannondale. It looks like it would be stiff; large shaped aluminum tubes and all.

The bike would be used for everyday training, and weekend crits, by a hefty dude (215lbs)
There are some geometry changes, I just don't know what they mean.
Orbea - ST 73.2 HT 72.1
Cannondale - ST 74 HT 73

Any help on Material type and Geometry guidance?
Or maybe experience w/ Orbea or in particular the Vitesse Frame?

left out dimensions...C-40
Jan 9, 2004 2:46 PM
The dimensions you provided are incomplete. How about frame size, top tube length, head tube length and fork rake?
Some dimensions, hope you can help853
Jan 9, 2004 3:32 PM
Cannondale - 54cm ST tube C-T
54.5cm Top Tube C-C
Fork Rake - 4.3cm
ST - 74
HT - 73
Orbea - 53cm ST tube C-T
54cm Top Tube C-C
Fork Rake - NA
ST - 73.2
HT - 72.1
The shorter top tube would be perfect w/ my 120mm stem.
I just want to know if this would be ideal geometry for what I like to do, crit's, or am I taking a step in the wrong direction w/ this frame. Fit should be most important,right? I think that if I had a 54cm TT that would be perfect. I just don't know what else I'm sacraficing, (handeling wise) will it be slower thru turns?
Will Columbus Zonal be as stiff as Cannondale aluminum?

I replied to this in the components forum for you... nm.russw19
Jan 9, 2004 4:14 PM
not crit steering geometry...C-40
Jan 10, 2004 8:55 AM
The 72 degree HTA will make for slower steering, unless the fork has a lot of rake. Whether you will find this detrimental is hard to say.

The TT length is actually about 1.5cm shorter than the C'dale, with the saddle in the same position relative to the bottom bracket. This is acommon mistake, to compare TT lengths without considering the difference in the seat tube angle.

Don't forget to compare head tube lengths, so you know what changes will be necessary in the steering tube spacers and/or stem angle.