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Bike products we love except for....(14 posts)

Bike products we love except for....Mootsie
Jan 7, 2004 12:12 PM
After reading the post below on Axial Pros and how hard they are to stretch onto a rim, I started thinking about other bike products that I love, but have come to realize will always have that one thing about them that drives me nuts. Another example is my beloved Open Pro rims and that ever elusive "click" that some get, some don't. What do you love except for...?
Brake PadsSpiderman
Jan 7, 2004 12:27 PM
I love my brake pads. Because without them, It would be harder to slow down. I hate changing them because they take so much effort to slide them in and out of the shoes.
My older Seven custom Ti stemCoolhand
Jan 7, 2004 12:42 PM
Fits perfectly, light, smooth riding and durable too. Single bolt clamp makes carbon bars a no-no, it doesn't fit the new 31.8 oversized bars, and installing a new bar is a major PITA.

For me with the Axial Pro's the very nice, but they got tons of cuts and nicks in them.

Cinelli quill XA stem.....Dave Hickey
Jan 7, 2004 1:22 PM
IMHO, still the best looking stem produced but it's a PITA to change stems with the old style quill stems. You have to remove one side of the bar tape and brake lever to remove the bar.
re: Bike products we love except for....CARBON110
Jan 7, 2004 3:09 PM
-Zipp clincher wheels how they are just 2mm to high to make putting ANY tire on easy.

-Tubular tires, the wait to use them the hassle of changing a spare

-Reynolds/Bontrager carbon clincher prices WTF are they thinking?

-Replacing my SRM battery once every 6000 miles

-Vredestien 80mm vlaves for clinchers 15$ for a flat and they are so long they break easy

-My Cane Creek H2O bottles, they look cool as can be but those tops couldnt hold sand much less water

-Mavic Carbone Cosmics, nice wheels but harsh, heavy, way over priced and cheap ass "carbon"

-Valve extenders, I'll solve ancient theroms before I can make one hold air without using teflon tape
re: Bike products we love except for....Squint
Jan 7, 2004 10:37 PM
With a VAR tire lever, you can put any tire on any rim very easily. No more struggling. It's so easy it's sick.

You can buy your own SRM battery for $10 and change it yourself. It only takes a few minutes with a soldering iron.
Not sure who told you that........CARBON110
Jan 8, 2004 7:34 AM
But both of those statements are not true. Sure you CAN change your own SRM battery, I'm sure you could build your own frameset. If you change your battery yourself you VOID any chance of getting a replacement for your crankset should something go wrong. This has been discussed on I know of only one person who did it and he did NOT recommend it. SRM will replace your cranks for free if they fail to due their job even years after purchase, Unless you tamper with them.

Zipp clincher rims are NEVER easy to put tires on period even with the assistance of tire levers EVER! This has come up many times on RBR and for Zipp clinher owners its all to common knowledge

The questions was: "what bicyle things do you love but are a hassle"
Not sure who told you that........Squint
Jan 8, 2004 8:16 AM
I don't have Zipp clincher rims but over the years (including several as a shop mechanic) I have had to deal with many tight tire/rim combinations. I got good enough to muscle even Michelin Supercomp HD tires onto any rim without tools. But it wasn't fun. The VAR tire levers and the Koolstop equivalent snap onto the opposite side of the rim while hooking underneath the bead. They use the other edge or lip of the rim as a fulcrum and lift the bead over and into position w/o pinching the tube. Like I said before, I don't have Zipp clinchers but I'm sure these tools can easily mount any stubborn tire/rim combination.

As for the SRM, I kept the old battery and could put it back in should I need to send it back to SRM. You only need to apply the soldering iron to the solder on the wires for an instant and the old battery is freed. Do the same for the new battery and that's it. Put new silicone lube on the O-ring and put the lid back on and you're done. I consider it more of a hassle to box the crank up, take it to the post office, and fill out all the insurance forms.
Not sure who told you that........CARBON110
Jan 8, 2004 8:42 AM
Good point on the SRM and Im sure it works well but I'm not gonna take the chance. As much as I'd like to. Thanks for the information though! I will check out the VAR but I didn't think there was much of a difference with tire levers, but obviously I must be wrong. It certainly takes some patience and muscle to get the tires on Zipps using regular tire levers...unlike everyother wheel I have owned =D
Not sure who told you that........Squint
Jan 8, 2004 11:47 AM
I think Sun rims have a reputation for being a tight fit. Putting most tires on those rims was a struggle but tight tires like Michelins was an even greater struggle. When I used conventional tire levers, I would often have to double them up because they were flexing so much.

It's been probably 1500 mi since I changed the SRM battery and it's working great. At least we don't have to ship them back to Germany like in the old days. I've heard of people paying $300 in duties and shipping just to get a battery change...
Cycle Computerspitt83
Jan 7, 2004 6:05 PM
I swear no matter what I buy, it works for about 3-4 weeks then something gives out. Too cheap to fix; too valuable to do without entirely.

Campy rimsDougSloan
Jan 8, 2004 7:17 AM
Campy Nucleon wheels -- great, except you'll possibly lose a finger and pinch a few tubes trying to mount a tire. The channel is shallow, allowing little stretch over the opposite side.

Newer Bianchi frames -- I love Bianchi, but I refuse to buy a sloping top tube road bike. Just isn't right.

Speedplay pedals -- make perfect sense, are light, but they hurt my feet and calves.

USE Alien carbon seatpost -- very light, but the head is difficult to position and get tightened just right, and you may be sol if it loosens on the road, unless you are carrying a very tiny allen wrench

Here are a fewChicago_Steve
Jan 8, 2004 7:25 AM
Ritchey Snap on rim strips - These are kind of like a high tech version of the old rubber rim strips on the Huffy you grew up with. They are much lighter then Velox and work great when positioned properly... BUT move the strip a little when in installing a new tube/tire and you'll flat on the spoke hole...

Wireless Computers - I like not having to deal with cable and most days my wireless computer works fine.... BUT put a Nite Rider light next to it and it goes wacky. Also they tend to stop working around 32F or lower temperature.

Tires with tight beads - Michelin and Conti Kevlar bead tires come to mind. Ever try and put a Michelin MTB tire on a Sun Rim? I've wasted more time on that then negotiating my last home mortgage. Unfortunately these two companies also make some of the best tires on the market today!

Cinelli bar tape - It comes in some cool colors... BUT I don't get the loyalty factor to this tape. It seems to wear quicker then Profile or other cheaper tape. There is less padding then other brands too...

Threaded Headsets - I always like the ability to move a quill stem up or down to adjust height... BUT getting a loose ball threaded headset tightened just right was always a pain. I'd always get it perfect then add another 1/4 turn to the lock nut and it would feel like hell again... sigh...

Aftermarket Hubs - I love the looks and light weight of (Hugi, King, Ringle, American Classic, Fill in the blank) aftermarket hubs. I also am a fan of cartridge bearings found on most of these hubs... BUT I hate machined aluminum freehubs that get nicked up easily and make changing cassettes a PITA. I am also not a fan of the loud whirring of the freehubs on most aftermarket designs.... I guess it's hard to beat good old big brand Campy/Shimano hubs.
campy centaur groupcolker1
Jan 8, 2004 7:28 AM
chorus efficiency but much cheaper. durable, classy... except for the heavy, ugly veloce bottom bracket needed for thelight centaur crankset. why not make it compatible with the chorus bb?