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Just started the South Beach Diet(9 posts)

Just started the South Beach Dietbimini
Jan 5, 2004 6:30 AM
My wife wants to loose some weight and I would like to loose 10-15 pounds so I can do better in the hills next year when racing. I am 6' 180# so have the pounds to give up.

To help out I am doing the 2 week crash course with my wife which allows zero carbo rich foods of any sort.

I'm on the second day and having serious sugar cravings. Is this normal? Is it pycological or physical? Will they pass in a few days?

Yesterday we had 10" of snow so went out XC sking in the morning for an hour. I had serious carbo cravings the rest of the day and a feeling of very low energy level. I feel much better this morning. I assume my body turned some fat into sugar for me.

After the 2 weeks the diet allows some carbs, just limit the total number of carbs and stay away from carbs with a high glycimic index (spikes the blood sugar).

I plan on continuing modest training during the diet, at most an hour every day or every other day with no intensity training. I would like to drop all the weight before March. Then I will start more intense training and using more carbs. Our first race of the year is at the end of March and has several very steep climbs.

For those who have done this type of diet, Do you have any advice?
re: Just started the South Beach Dietfastbike
Jan 5, 2004 7:26 AM
The first two days of the SB diet are tough. The cravings dissipate after a couple of days. the two week period of no carbs can be difficult for someone doing any significant exercise, but with moderation, this diet works terrific. I lost the proverbial "9 or 10 lbs" the first two weeks. I did put some of it back on, but that was not the fault of the diet. If you can stick with this for a month you will appreciate the whole concept. When I cycled on this diet, I used a low sugar, low carb energy source called Jog Mate and it worked fine. Again, best approach to this diet with exercise is to do moderate exercise, nothing like 50 mile rides, etc. I am back on it myself as of the first of the year. Good luck.
here's how ANY diet worksColnagoFE
Jan 5, 2004 8:04 AM
You eat less, you excercise more, you lose weight. If you eat too little you can sabotage long-term weight loss though. Hence yo-yo dieting. If you do lots of exercise you need carbs though the low-carb thing does seem to help with carb cravings--hence you eat less. Though in return you feel like total crap. Not worth it IMO.
worked for meterry b
Jan 5, 2004 8:30 AM
I was about the same height and weight as you are I'm now the same height and 156 lbs.

The first week I was seriously craving the crap I'd cut out and was not a very pleasant person to be around. Second week and beyond - cravings were gone, along with the serious hunger I used to feel 1 hour after my carb laden breakfast.

Now I've been on it for 3 months and I no longer care about junk carbs. In terms of riding - for short rides (1.5 hours or less) I don't eat anything special. For anything over 2 hours - I eat a carb loaded breakfast and a PowerGel every 25 miles. Did a 110 mile century this way with no problems at all (6 hour riding time, my standard rate.)

Found that for the first couple of weeks, lengthy exercise was easy - plenty of energy and no supplements requied. After that, with less body fat to burn I returned to eating while riding.

I'm happy I did it, I've completely changed my crappy eating habits, dropped 18 pounds and feel like I truly accomplished something.
side question about racingCritLover
Jan 5, 2004 9:09 AM
Do you think it's feasible to go on this diet while racing, or training for racing? Are the carb demands just too high, or can it be modified so that it still works?

I was talking about this with a guy from my LBS and he thought it could work, but he's no expert. Any thoughts?
base miles to correct weight...Spunout
Jan 5, 2004 9:49 AM
From my point of view, losing weight in a race period is courting sickness, burnout, fatigue, etc. Why anyone would want to diet during a race phase is beyond me from a performance point of view also. Whole point of this time is to eat like a horse, and have performances equally energized.

The ramping up of miles in base training usually results in a bit of weight loss, this might be the time to accomplish that. Get lean, stabilize your habits and diet. You will lose a bit more in build training as fat converts to muscle also.

I am 170 right now, race at 160, and have just started base. Two weeks in Jamaica did their work!
It sure won't improve your racingColnagoFE
Jan 5, 2004 10:02 AM
And most likely will harm your performance--heck MOST calorie restricted diets are not good from a pure performance standpoint. That said...if you need to drop pounds it might be a good tradeoff to make to get to your optimal weight.
Everything I have read says don't do it.bimini
Jan 5, 2004 10:46 AM
The books say strive for weight loss in the off season and then maintain weight and energy ballance during the season. With a foot of fresh snow on the ground this is off season for me. I will still ride the bike either outside or inside and XC ski but not at the intensity or duration I was going at when it was nice out and I was racing. Right now the goal is to drop the pounds in the next two months. Then I will start the intervals and hill climbs for the first event of our season which is at the end of March. I hope dropping 15 pounds helps. The first race is all hills and I got dropped on the first hill last year, maybe with a lighter load I can hang on up those hills. And yes, I plan on eating and drinking carbs then but will avoid them unless it is a few hours before a hard training ride or recovery after a hard ride. I don't plan on doing a lot of Carbs before my routine 1 hour daily rides.
re: Just started the South Beach Dietbiketx
Jan 6, 2004 7:06 PM
Don't know the details of SB. Some people have told me the diet I came up with for myself resembles it. I couldn't ride that well on Atkins. Low energy all the time. Did Atkins twice, both times gained back all the weight. Not good at carb counting anyway, and I travel a lot, so food availability is unpredictable.

Now have significantly limited breads, sugars, anything with simple carbs. Give myself bread < 3x/week, dessert 1x/week, beer 2x/week. Eat pretty much all the fruits and vegetables I want. That would make the Atkins folks unhappy, but it works really well for me. Can "earn" another beer for rides > 90 min, so motivating to get out. :-)

Down 47 lbs, no carb cravings, feel great, plenty of energy for riding, 2-3 mph faster than ever before. Can even run again, since there's less weight pounding my creaky knees, so doing my first triathlon this spring.

Good luck to you and your wife.