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Stradivarius effect(7 posts)

Stradivarius effectsinfonian
Jan 3, 2004 3:27 PM
Is it possible for older steel frames from a master builder to get better over the years? It seems the steel would get more "supple" over the years in ways that would give a more smooth ride, particularly if ridden by the same rider. I'm guessing the frame would be flexed enough times to conform to the rider's profile. Possible??
NO !!! (nm)C-40
Jan 3, 2004 4:50 PM
I'm no metalurgist, but...ramboorider
Jan 3, 2004 4:52 PM
...I've read often enough that there's nothing to the old saw about steel frames "going soft" as they age. If that's true, I can't imagine the ride would mellow out either. If you like the way a frame rides, that's the way it's gonna ride for it's lifetime. If you don't like the way it rides, same thing.

dont think so....rdbike
Jan 3, 2004 5:19 PM
Metal life ie fatigue strength is measured in cycles which is not infinate in some metals or alloys. A cycle could be a deflection and release of a metal at a stategic point. A bike frame can have stress points that are under a repeated cyclic loads.
The rider may conform to the frame but...DERICK
Jan 3, 2004 5:21 PM
I doubt it would work the other way.
re: Stradivarius effectChainstay
Jan 3, 2004 5:24 PM
Some possible explanations:

1. The saddle softens, Is it leather?
2. You become less aggressive with age. You ride slower so you experience less jarring and less upper body fatigue
3. You gain 25 pounds and the frame flexes more under your weight
4. You have switched to a softer tire. A 23 vs a 21, or you run lower pressure
5. You ride smoother roads
6. You have gained flexibility, possibly through more stretching
7. You have grown fond of the old Bianchi, or whatever

Note: None of these is metallurgical and I don't think there is a case for this. If you are not stressing the frame to it's yield point you will not get deformation.
Jan 4, 2004 9:51 AM
Your newer ride is as stiff as sh!t, making your older ride seem softer than it used to be.