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New Frame(17 posts)

New FrameAndy M-S
Jan 3, 2004 1:02 PM
Here's a Christmas present a few days late...and worth the wait. It's a 58cm Kogswell, not light (but see below, light can have its disadvantages), lugged steel, using Kogswell's "Big Lug" set. Soon to be visiting these pages dressed with appropriate (and inappropriate?) componentry, but it was fresh out of the box, so I had to take a pic.

It's close in geometry to a "sport touring" bike, and hopefully will become my main ride when finished. This is my first "brand new" frame purchase in almost 30 years, so I'm a little excited, if you didn't notice.
I'm unfamiliar with Kogswell... got a link?Akirasho
Jan 3, 2004 1:12 PM
... I guess I could do a Google search, but I'll ask ya for a link!

Be the bike.
Here ya go...Andy M-S
Jan 3, 2004 1:15 PM
Wasn't he the "clock character" in Beauty and the Beast?Kerry Irons
Jan 3, 2004 2:00 PM
Oh no, I guess that was Cogsworth. Anyway, nice looking frame!
Cogsworth would be the name you mean (nm)ZenJones
Jan 3, 2004 3:41 PM
Sorry didn't see the body of your message! :DZenJones
Jan 3, 2004 3:45 PM
Where are you from Andy?Nater
Jan 3, 2004 2:57 PM
I was in the shop that I used to work for today and say a brand new 58cm Kogswell in the wrench's stand and he was setting the head set crown race. Just wondering if you're from a river city in the Upper Midwest?
Where are you from Andy?Andy M-S
Jan 3, 2004 3:43 PM

That's my bike! Mine!

Heh--you must have come into Smith's right after I left! Lots more room in the new location. To be slightly more specific, I live in Onalaska, but when people ask, yes, it's "La Crosse."
Jan 5, 2004 6:33 AM
Unfortunately I no longer live in La Crosse...had to move to Madison and get a "real job." I still make it up that way from time to time to ride with the Smith's crew and use the shop to work on my own stuff. I really miss the road riding community around's not bad here in Madison but it's not like it was in La Crosse. I'll be looking for your Kogswell if I get up there for some group rides this season. Have fun with it!
Cool...Andy M-S
Jan 5, 2004 7:26 AM
Well, it IS pretty fantastic around here. I moved to La Crosse just over 4 years ago, and I still love the fact that Grandad Bluff is available for lunch rides, or if I want to take the long way home up and over and down through Barre Mills (though FO is starting to look awfully suburban out in that direction).

Madison has some interesting and varied territory, including some really eurostyle stuff on the UW campus, but the traffic is rather heavy. I've only visited, but the city seems moderately cycle-friendly, rather like MPLS/St Paul when I was at the U of M in the late '70s. Unfortunately, it looks like Madison is getting close to the Twin Cities in terms of traffic, too.

I'll look forward to seeing you on the rides...
The home of the best Oktoberfest and the worlds largest 6pack nmjaybird
Jan 3, 2004 5:42 PM
Jan 3, 2004 7:34 PM
I'm interested in seeing the bike built up - I've been considering painting my headtube black to contrast with the white frame...

Oh, and take it easy on the piano - not the best place for a build-up! And check #284 in the blue songbook for an interesting dissertation on speed... ;^)

Piano...Andy M-S
Jan 4, 2004 3:20 AM

Since I moved that piano from upstate NY to Wisconsin, and since it's the heaviest piano I've ever had to deal with (and, knowing the blue book, you'll know why I've dealt with many pianos), I'm generally careful with is to my spouse what my bikes are to me :-). For building, it goes down to my secret workshop.

There are one or two things in #284 that I don't care for, but the tune is one of my favorites, and I kind of like the idea of "hie"-ing in the "twinkle of an eye."

I should have the bike back from the shop on Monday, and I'll start building then, though I'm unlikely to complete it in less than a week...
There is no end to "There is no end to..." = eternity defined! nmBowWow
Jan 4, 2004 6:49 PM
how $$? weight? size? geometry?colker1
Jan 4, 2004 7:05 AM
you's's a cool frame and those guys have a cool approach but i couldn't find any info on sizes, weight, geom. numbers or price.
how $$? weight? size? geometry?PMC
Jan 4, 2004 9:03 AM
Here's a couple of links for you - for geometry & blueprints - for prices

The weight of a 58cm derailleur frame and fork is around 6 pounds if I remember correctly.

Matthew (the guy behind Kogswell) is a local guy for me and I've talked with him at length about these frames. Lots of room for fenders and big tires on these frames. The price of 290 bucks shipped with long reach brakes is a steal for a good quality lugged frame/fork and brake combo IMO.

Looking at them again makes me want to pick one up.
working man's rivendells.colker1
Jan 4, 2004 10:01 AM
wow. those fixed g frames...