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New bike post (pics inside)Zonic Man
Dec 31, 2003 10:09 AM
Many of you remember me posting about getting a new custom IF in a short amount of time in august. Two weeks from delivery, IF produced me a frame especially for my honeymoon.

Well, the specs were a bit off on that frame, as mistakes will happen. When I built the bike up, IF tried to make it right by telling me to ride the bike on my honeymoon, and when I got back, they would make me a brand new one free in exchange for the one I'd ridden. Well, we finally got the specs right, and after three weeks, IF had built me another one!

I can't stress how "on the ball" Independent Fabrications is with their company. I have nothing but good things to say about them. They deliver as promised, produce a top quality product, and don't skimp anywhere.

Anyone looking for a reliable custom builder, willing to go the extra mile for a customer, I suggest you go with Independent. They're top notch!

IF custom special edition (steel)
Campy Record
Neutron wheels
Deda finishing kit

Wow...Dave Hickey
Dec 31, 2003 10:26 AM
The bike looks fantastic... Fit, finish, and group all seem to work perfect together. Great job..
re: New bike post (pics inside)Welshboy
Dec 31, 2003 10:39 AM
Er, nice valve!
re: New bike post (pics inside)rogue_CT1
Dec 31, 2003 10:52 AM
Yeah, what's up with the valve?
Dec 31, 2003 10:44 AM
Where exactly did IF go wrong the first time? Didn't you give them exact specs? Did they somehow not build the frame to those specs? And how long is that stem? Looks like a 13... If so, why didn't they/you go with a tt one or two cm longer? Nice bike, btw. Also, what's the bb drop?
Nice looking bike. Give us some more details.Fez
Dec 31, 2003 10:49 AM
What kind of paint did you spec? Its painted steel, right?

The first pic makes it look like it is Ti.

What did you spec and what came out wrong the first time? Glad to see everything worked out in the end. Tell us more about this nice looking ride.
DetailsZonic Man
Dec 31, 2003 11:03 AM
Paint is PPG "platinum" with Creme panels.

Fake Ti.

First time I gave them the specs off a serrotta fit cycle, gave them my Dr.'s fit sheet with actual numbers (seat height, saddle behind BB, saddle to bar drop, blah blah).

Those numbers apparently didn't work. With this one, I got measured the "old fashioned way".

13cm stem is on there for now until I get the funds to get a proper 11cm one. Seems to work alright though, I'll know better after this holiday (50+ miles today after work!).
Dec 31, 2003 11:06 AM
"First time I gave them the specs off a serrotta fit cycle, gave them my Dr.'s fit sheet with actual numbers (seat height, saddle behind BB, saddle to bar drop, blah blah).

Those numbers apparently didn't work. With this one, I got measured the "old fashioned way"."

A couple of us raised issues with those numbers when you posted them. I don't see how IF is to blame, though. Seems like the fit doctor or whoever screwed up.
That's why I never blamed them.Zonic Man
Dec 31, 2003 11:17 AM
The numbers apparently weren't right in the first place.

I don't think the Dr. screwed up. I think it was just miscommunication.

(Dr. has some pretty damn good credentials, fit my other bikes perfectly)
As Richard Nixon said...gtx
Dec 31, 2003 11:27 AM
"mistakes were made..."

I guess it's weird that IF didn't raise the same concerns some of us armchair guys did on this site, but at the same time if they had dimensions dictated to them it doesn't seem fair that they'd have to eat teh expense. I'm guessing you would've been better off with a stock size to begin with. Seems like some people overthink this whole fit thing. For 90% of people (men especially) it's really just inseam x .67 for c-t or .65 for c-c and pick a stem that's comfy. Anyway, glad it worked out in the end. IF does seem like a cool company.
Yeah.Zonic Man
Dec 31, 2003 11:31 AM
I gave them all the measurements, and that's what they came up with. So oh well.

It's all gravy now.

PS: They're 100 percent custom now, and because of my lack of flexibility, I needed a longer headtube.

Also got the frame stiffer for crit racing, sprinting, and my fat ass.
Yeah, butFez
Dec 31, 2003 6:01 PM
Don't they still have the "stock" geometry chart on the web?

If I were to purchase a fine frame like an IF, I would probably start at the stock chart and then make minor adjustments like extended headtube, minor toptube slope, etc.

I believe in refining what already works for me, rather than reinventing the wheel.

Also, I think there is just too much to go wrong when some guy takes a bunch of measurements of me and builds a frame based on those measurements.
Beautiful bike. How much slope?...koala
Dec 31, 2003 12:47 PM
looks like 2-3 degrees.
Four degrees.Zonic Man
Dec 31, 2003 12:53 PM
Enough to not make the headtube look dorky a la seven and serrotta with their goofy extensions.
Four degrees.koala
Dec 31, 2003 4:06 PM
Did the same thing with my strong foco. Went 6.7 degrees as my aging body needs a couple of centimeters extension. Great lookin ride you got there, sweet colored panels. Safe ridin.

re: New bike post (pics inside)rdbike
Dec 31, 2003 2:40 PM
Very Very nice ride! (nm)
Sweet ride, Zonic. Hope to see it up close some day. (nm)js5280
Jan 3, 2004 9:03 PM