Dec 30, 2003 2:36 PM
|Was just drooling over the new 2004 Campy line and noticed that Chorus went to the Record-style crank thins year. Also the carbon shifters and bits. What does Record do to justify first place in the lineup this year? It seems that Chorus is even more of a great choice than ever given all the trickle down from Record. Is there anything so great about the new Record to justify the price difference now?|
|re: 2004 Campy||Juanmoretime|
Dec 30, 2003 2:47 PM
|While the Chorus has the carbon bits, it doesn't have the titanium bits so its still a little heavier than 2003 Record. 2004 Record added even more carbon bits, rear derailleur lower cage, the outside of the front derailleur cage and the brifters are even lighter and a new chain 20 grams lighter than the Ultra.
Colorado Cyclist is closing out some 2003 Campy parts and I ordered the 2003 Record short cage rear derailleur earlier today for $159, they had three left. I'm replacing a 2003 Chorus rear and seeing the price I just had to buy it, the Chorus will be a great backup.
Dec 30, 2003 3:05 PM
|1. 04 Rec. chain ring teeth are machined and coated differently: supposed to be more efficient and smoother.
2. Record chain is also different.
3. brake calipers are marked w/ "titanium" decal and also option of all black calipers.
|re: 2004 Campy||divve|
Dec 30, 2003 6:07 PM
|Functionally the most significant difference are the Ergopowers. The "Ultra" Record shifting is definitely more refined now. Chorus clicking feels rougher like last years Record. It does smoothen out over time but it still won't be how the new Record feels. I'm not sure what's better, buy it's a clear difference.|
|It's all good||AFred|
Dec 31, 2003 6:59 AM
|I have '03 Record on my Team SC and just received '04 Chorus on a new Majestic. The shop that built up my Majestic included the carbon cranks at no extra cost. They are just fantastic with a marbelized carbon finish. Though I am careful going through the corners with 'em.
Functionally, I cannot detect a difference between the groups. I'm sure there is a weight difference and Record has titanium bits, and all, but in daily use there is very little difference. I think that Chorus is THE value in Campy lineup.
|re: 2004 Campy||NEIL|
Dec 31, 2003 8:43 AM
|All the good things about Record are now in Chorus is great news. The classic 4 arm crank, cool looking carbon levers and rear derailleur body. Record buys you more carbon in the derailleur cages, titanium bolts and screws, a few less grams, 10 Ultra Ergo, and more clout. Personally, I can do without all of those compromises.
IMO, I don't want carbon anywhere near the chain. I wonder what those Record carbon derailleur cages are going to look like in a few years. Thier justification is that Record is designed for pros, and if one gets messed up, they get another one put on the same day. And, the group doesn't need to last any longer than one season if that before it's replaced.
Dec 31, 2003 10:26 AM
|the record bb has a carbon housing (the bb is the best upgrade in terms of $/g) and the record cassette is partially or totally titanium.|| |