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teach me to ride hands on bends(8 posts)

teach me to ride hands on bendsNoam
Dec 27, 2003 2:54 AM
I feel uncomfortable on the bends. I Use only the break hoods and the handlebar top. How do I train myself to ride hands on bends.

how uncomfortable?cyclopathic
Dec 27, 2003 6:43 AM
do you mean you feel cramped or you can't control the bike.

if second you need to practice. Ride alone, try diff cadence, accelerate, stand on pedals in drops, it will come. When get more or less comfortable try rollers.

if first is the issue there might be several reasons. Most likely it is flexibility, then you'd need to stretch. You may also have issues with bike set up: too deep of the drop, bars too low, handlebar orientation, saddle position...
how uncomfortable?Noam
Dec 27, 2003 8:18 AM
I guess it is both. I feel cramped. It could be the length of top tube, length of stem or saddle too forward positioned. All of these are correct when riding hands on break hoods.
Also, my knees to not come too close to my elbows.
Your contribution is much appreciated
try thiscyclopathic
Dec 28, 2003 2:58 PM
I am guessing you ride ergo bars and the ends set up parallel to ground. Rotate them ~10-15deg, so they point below rear brake about 1/3 down chainstay. This will bring hoods up, but that's o'k, if you've seen LA posters, and many other pros running hoods jacked up it creates a "natural" position for your wrist both in drops and hoods.

Now knees and elbows. On my century bike /set up more for comfort/ my knees come close to elbows, almost overlap but they stay inside. Is it possible that your handlebar is too narrow? How big are you, how wide are your shoulders, and what size/drop handlebar are you running?

It may be your bike is too short but sometimes problem can be caused by saddle pointing down. You get in drops, and slide forward. If this is the case, try to rotate saddle up, until it becomes uncomfortable riding in drops, then back it up just a bit. You may also try to move it back; new hood position should give you ~1/2".

It is hard to guess w/o seeing, would have been easier you'd post a picture. Anyways write up above should give you some starting point good luck
One mile at a timewooglin
Dec 27, 2003 11:50 AM
I spend all winter on the hoods. Come spring, I'll ride in the drops (uncomfortably) for a mile, then get back on the hoods. I'll do that until I forget to look down to see when the mile ends. Then I'll start going 2 miles, ending the same way. Then 3, etc.

You need flat sections of road for this.
re: teach me to ride hands on bendsPEDDLFOOT
Dec 27, 2003 12:01 PM
Work on abdominal and lower back strength.Strong core muscles will help you maintain the position in the drops.Also lower back flexibility.Start now and by Spring you will be able stay in the drops longer.
re: teach me to ride hands on bendsDave_Stohler
Dec 27, 2003 4:31 PM
2 things come to mind: First, is the bike too small for you? How tall are you, and what is your frame size? If your elbows hit your knees, then the bike is too small, and there is really nothing you can do to fix that.

The second thing is hadlebar position. I still see lots of newbies riding with the drop ends nearly horizontal-this is not the way to do it! I've heard people say that you should aim your bars at either the rear brake, or at the rear hub, but the best way is to just pivot them until they fit your hands at a comfortable angle. Not too vertical, though, or you'll feel like you're 'falling out' of the bars!

Another common mistake is bar height. I don't care if Patani does it-having your bars 8" below the saddle is d@mn uncomfortable! I generally set mine about 2" below the saddle, and even have a touring bike where the bars are at the same level of the saddle. BTW, I spend the majority of my riding time in the drops.
The REAL key is to raise the bars.... Grant says!Cory
Dec 28, 2003 5:53 PM
I rode for 25 years without touching the drops more than once or twice a year, and only then because I felt like I should. When I bought my Atlantis, Grant Petersen convinced me to raise the bars so they're about level with the saddle. Instantly, I can ride the drops the way they were designed to be ridden: When you're just cruising along, you stay on the tops or the hoods. When you need to get aero, the bars are placed so you can reach the drops pretty easily, rather than having to reach down eight or 10 inches for them. There may be some slight aero disadvantage (I'm not convinced it's meaningful for most riding), but for me, it's more than canceled by increased comfort that lets me ride longer and suffer less.