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US Postal out of Tour for 2004?????(16 posts)

US Postal out of Tour for 2004?????Scollopini
Dec 22, 2003 3:46 PM

We've just heard some disturbing news down under in Australia - apparently the UCI is thinking of eliminating US Postal from racing next season - it was on our news - and its ages until April 1!!!! Here is a link...

Have you guys heard anything???
re: US Postal out of Tour for 2004?????Wiaruz
Dec 22, 2003 3:59 PM
From (BTW a great site)

The UCI has confirmed 24 of the 30 teams that have the right to ride in Division I next season, with a further six pending subject to certain conditions to be fulfilled by January 8, 2004. The 24 teams include new squads Chocolade Jacques-Wincor/Nixdorf (Bel), Illes Balears-Banesto (Spa), Liberty Seguros (Spa), R.A.G.T. Semences-MG Rover (Fra), Saunier Duval-Prodir (Spa), and the top two Division II teams in 2003, Bankgiroloterij (Ned) and De Nardi (Ita). Bankgiroloterij has yet to decide whether it will accept the promotion to Division I, as it may not be willing to take on the extra financial burden.

There are a few surprises on the "pending" list, including the top team of 2003, Fassa Bortolo, and Lance Armstrong's US Postal Service presented by Berry Floor team. These teams have just over two weeks to qualify for registration in Division I, but it is believed that they will make the cut.
It was on Bloomberg this afternoon,TJeanloz
Dec 22, 2003 3:59 PM
Bloomberg reported this this afternoon. Not really a big deal, yet. The UCI requires various bank guarantees, etc. before teams can officially register, and USPS didn't make the first deadline. Doesn't really matter, you can be they'll be there.
Dec 22, 2003 4:04 PM
Article on Cyclingnews also.

My guess is that they failed to file some sort of required paperwork in time. They have another couple of weeks. I'd bet anything that if USPS was out of the tour, LA would find another team to buy his contract.
A gross over interpretation of events!Kerry Irons
Dec 22, 2003 4:30 PM
There is NOTHING to suggest that Postal's TdF entry is at risk. Last year's winner ALWAYS gets an invite. Full stop. Either your ABC.NET is trying to make something out of nothing, or the Tour organization is trying to create a little off season press interest by not putting Postal on the first-pass list. In order for Postal to not get an invite, you'd have to have Lance caught 'inflagrante' or something like it. Cipo's team is another story.
A gross misinterpretation of eventsTJeanloz
Dec 22, 2003 4:37 PM
There is something that suggests Postal's entry is at risk - the UCI is saying they aren't a team. USPS has to be certified as a trade team before they can be invited to anything, and the UCI has said that they don't meet the requirements, and given them until January 8 to rectify the situation.

This has NOTHING to do with the ASO (Tour), it is a UCI issue. Seems there might be some money issues in the team...
They aren't a team? Maybe they should hug after each...Bruno S
Dec 22, 2003 5:14 PM
stage win like soccer players :-)
Not true from what I jimbo
Dec 23, 2003 9:55 AM
The previous winner does NOT get an automatic invite. Only the Team GC winner gets an automatic invite. I may be wrong but according to the OLN coverage of the Tour this is the case.

Jim Smart
Not correctTJeanloz
Dec 23, 2003 9:59 AM
The team of the defending champ gets an automatic invitation. Several other teams get automatic bids based on point standings.
What if the winner switched teams?Dave Hickey
Dec 23, 2003 11:16 AM
If Jan won last year, would Bianchi or T-Mobile get invited this year?
I believe current team,TJeanloz
Dec 23, 2003 11:25 AM
I believe that if the rider changed teams, his current team would get the invite. It is the team of the defending champion that gets the invitation, which is not necessarily the team that he was on the year before. It would be extraordinary for a team not to be selected after having won though.

However, if Lance had retired in 2003, I don't believe the Tour would be under any obligation to invite USPS in 2004.
USPS has so many sponsors that the paperwork must be...Bruno S
Dec 22, 2003 5:11 PM
very complex. Just look at the 2003 official name:

United States Postal Service Presented by Berry Floor.

maybe for 2004 they will add:

United States Postal Service Presented by Berry Floor and Riding Trek Bicycles Driven by Subaru Wearing Oakleys and Nike Protected by Giro.

If USPS has finance problems it must because of how many big sponsors they have. Sorting out how to structure all the finances may take way more time than any other team. I can assure you the problem is not lack of funds.
you forgot to add...Fender
Dec 22, 2003 6:56 PM
While they Eat Clif Bars to the team name.
you forgot to add...MellowVelo
Dec 22, 2003 9:50 PM
except for Lance - who eats powerbars :)
Dec 23, 2003 6:39 AM
LA comes out on the losing end on that one. Powerbars...yuck. Cliff Bars are great.
Dec 23, 2003 7:48 AM
Have you tried the "Harvest" line of Powerbars? I like Cliff better than the other Powerbars but prefer the Harvest line to either, especially the apple cinnamon.