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Frame Saver Questions(8 posts)

Frame Saver QuestionsPsalm 147-10_11
Dec 19, 2003 7:00 AM
I just bought a steel Pinarello Cross bike. It's from 1998 or 1999, but had never been built up. I had the shop I bought it from install a King headset before they mailed it to me. Once it arrived, I eagerly built up the bike and have ridden it a few times. I love it, and anticpate using it on the roads throughout the New England winter.

But... after reading MB1's account of Miss M's Waterford, I realize I forgot to use Frame Saver (I didn't really forget, its just that the LBS didn't have any on hand and I was anxious to ride the bike). So here's my question. Would you:
a) break the bike down and apply the frame saver now,
b) just spray the frame saver down the seat tube by removing the seat post and via the water bottle bosses, or
c) wait until I overhaul the bike after the season.

Thanks.
re: Frame Saver Questionsgtx
Dec 19, 2003 7:14 AM
Sounds like you're familiar with building up bikes and it's not that big a deal to pop out the bb. I've never used Framesaver but have had good luck with Boeshield--plus it's very light and less messy. Before that everyone just used to use plain old oil.
re: Frame Saver QuestionsTony Montana
Dec 19, 2003 7:16 AM
It depends on where you live and how you ride. Fair weather riders in AZ could likely get away with never applying Framesaver and be fine, but those that ride salted East coast roads in any weather condition would be very smart to apply it as soon as possible.

How does that saying go? An ounce of prevention...
b and cTNSquared
Dec 19, 2003 7:40 AM
I bought a used steel bike this fall, and I opted to break the bike down to apply framesaver thoroughly. However, the bike was in need of an overhaul anyway.

In your position, I'd be tempted to just spray framsaver in the seat tube for now and make a full application whenever you do an overhaul. If you really follow Weigel's instructions to the letter, a "proper" application is fairly tedious.

I read somewhere that alot of manufacturers apply some type of rust proofing to new frames, so you may be in pretty good shape for now anyway. A shot of framesaver down the seat tube certainly can't hurt, though.
I'd do a good treatment nowGregory Taylor
Dec 19, 2003 8:04 AM
My thinking is that a frame is only new once, and once you get moisture or salty gook into the inaccessible places in the frame (chainstays, seat stays), you really don't have any good way to get it squeaky clean again. Putting Frame Saver in a used frame won't do as much good as an application on new, clean metal.

Do y'all use salt on your roads?
I'd do it nowDaveG
Dec 20, 2003 9:18 AM
You don't have to completely strip the frame if you are careful. Pull the BB and fork, remove the wheels, and seatpost. Strap the bars to the TT carefully. Stuff towels in the opening, spray it down as directed, and spin it around in a workstand. Wipe off any overspray immediatly with a solvent. WD-40 works well once its dried. Most of you time is spent waiting for stuff to dry. While its probably best to have done this before, it should still provide protection
Strip it and put in 2 coatspeter in NVA
Dec 20, 2003 7:48 PM
I did that to my cross bike 3 years ago (took a day between coats and it was a mess-wear a face mask). The inside tubes are as shiny as new in spite of daily immersion in real mud and streams.
My *beautiful* fillet brazed road bike seat tube rusted out in six months (10 years ago) before I knew about treating the inside of the tubes. Not from rain rides but just from water accumulating in the sealed tubes from bringing it into the house everyday to protect it!
take seatpost and fork offcyclopathic
Dec 22, 2003 9:14 AM
also bottle cage bolts on downtube. THere's no really need to take out bottom bracket, Saver'll get there when you spray Frame Saver down seattube, downtube and chainstays via drain holes good luck.