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You know you're getting hosed on Ebay when....(10 posts)

You know you're getting hosed on Ebay when....hrdcorebikerboy
Dec 15, 2003 11:04 AM
Given all the chatter on whether or not Ebay purchases for used high-end cycles presents unnecessary risk, I thought I would start this thread. Personally, as a veteran of Ebay, I think that with common sense, it's very safe. Thus, I would offer the following observations, and welcome more pearls of wisdom.

You know you're getting hosed on Ebay when...

You see a Colnago C-50 being sold for $1,500 Buy it Now by a zero feedback person that just signed up.

Escrow is out of the question and the buyer won't provide any pictures

You bid on one item and get hit with emails from "reliable Ebayers" trying to sell you the same for much less.

It sounds too good to be true....because it usually is.

Despite multiple negative feedbacks warning of delays in shipping or misrepresented items, you still bid anyway figuring you're special.

Any others???
Rule #101 Even if everything checks out...ColnagoFE
Dec 15, 2003 11:39 AM
You can still get hosed. That's the price you pay for going through Ebay though and getting the deals.
Not alwaysspookyload
Dec 15, 2003 11:51 AM
I bought a pair of Zipp 404 tubies this year for $500 brand new. I was the only bidder, and walked away with a sweeeet deal. He had listed 700c tubies only in the triathalon section instead of cycling too. Most tri-geeks are only after 650c wheels, so nobody bid. I almost felt sorry for the guy because he meant to put a reserve on the auction but forgot, and I bid before he could modify the add.
AgreeDave Hickey
Dec 15, 2003 12:07 PM
I've gotten great deals when a seller makes a listing error. They either list it in the wrong catagory or spell the name wrong. I bought a brand new $100 S-Works saddle for $15.00 because the seller listed it as Specailized. I think Ebay gets a bad wrap. I buy things almost every week and (knock on wood), I've never had a bad transaction. The seller and buyer feedback system works.

I hate to say it but I've had more problems with RBR and rec.bicycles.marketplace than Ebay. For some reason sellers aren't quite as forthcoming about flaws in non-Ebay auctions.

I can also buy things on Ebay that I've never seen for sale anywhere else. There have been many people that have parted out new Dura Ace 25th anniversary kits. In the last month, I've bought 25th brake calipers and 2 headsets.
Ebay can be essentially safe if you're not stupidhrdcorebikerboy
Dec 15, 2003 1:39 PM
I agree as well, I figure the bike I'm riding now would have cost as much as $1,000 more without Ebay, from my Time Avant fork (170.00 on Ebay vs. 350.00 at LBS), to my Mavic 04 Kysrium SSC SLs (650.00 on Ebay vs. 800 at the LBS) to the D/A group (650 in pieces vs. 1100.00 at the LBS), to the Easton Carbon bar (100 vs 170 at the LBS). I could go on....with more than 120 transactions, I've had two bad experiences, neither of which was that big a deal.
the seller and buyer feedback system works, but...bicycle268
Dec 15, 2003 4:04 PM
What really scares me is when an honest Ebayers' id and feedback are hi-jacked by a thug. Then all of the above flies out the window.

It's prudent to check the feeback of the seller, not just the color of his 'star'. A 56cm 5900 frame and fork looks on the up and up until you discover the 50 positive feebacks are for porcelain doll heads!

aarrghh!!
I must be doing something wrong, because I never got shaftedThe Walrus
Dec 15, 2003 1:07 PM
The closest I've gotten to being taken was the third auction I got in on for a VooDoo Loa; I got sniped on the first two tries, but the third time, I won--at a good price--and exchanged e-mails with the seller. Everything looked good until next morning, when I got an e-mail from some other soul who'd already agreed to buy this same bike, from a different listing, and had already mailed his payment. What resulted was a three-way sh!tstorm of e-mails, from which I ultimately dropped out. Both of the others said I could have it if I wanted it, but by this time, it was pretty obvious that the seller was playing several buyers, trying to get the best price, and I didn't want to do business with the guy, no matter how badly I wanted the bike.

Other than this experience, the worst luck I've had has been sellers who didn't bother leaving feedback, and a couple items that didn't look quite as good as they had in their photos.

Maybe I just need to start going for some of the bigger ticket items.
it's fine if you have common senselaffeaux
Dec 15, 2003 3:02 PM
I've traded on eBay a lot and rarely had bad expereinces. In more than 75 tranactions, I've had UPS damage two shipments, and received one frame (from 1981) that had more rust than I'd expected. Otherwise I've had great luck.

IMO, shipping damage is the the biggest "weak link" for eBay as long as you use commmon sense.
Shipping damage...russw19
Dec 15, 2003 9:57 PM
I am going thru that right now with a pair of wheels I sold. From the buyer's description it sounds to me like UPS, or someone else opened the package to inspect it and didn't repack it right. I have never heard of UPS inspecting packages by opening them, but the way the seller described my box was not the way I packed it.

I am trying to do everything possible to make the guy happy, but he doesn't want to do anything I suggest. The package was insured, but he won't take it to UPS. I told him to keep the box in case he has to file a claim, he later told me he didn't want it in his apartment. He claimed the freehub of the wheels is bad, but won't send them back to me. I would pay him back for the shipping once I got the wheels back, I would refund his money and the return shipping, but he doesn't want to do that either.

What can I do? Fu#$in' Ebay.

Russ
I must be doing something wrong, because I never got shaftedThe Walrus
Dec 15, 2003 1:15 PM
The closest I've gotten to being taken was the third auction I got in on for a VooDoo Loa; I got sniped on the first two tries, but the third time, I won--at a good price--and exchanged e-mails with the seller. Everything looked good until next morning, when I got an e-mail from some other soul who'd already agreed to buy this same bike, from a different listing, and had already mailed his payment. What resulted was a three-way sh!tstorm of e-mails, from which I ultimately dropped out. Both of the others said I could have it if I wanted it, but by this time, it was pretty obvious that the seller was playing several buyers, trying to get the best price, and I didn't want to do business with the guy, no matter how badly I wanted the bike.

Other than this experience, the worst luck I've had has been sellers who didn't bother leaving feedback, and a couple items that didn't look quite as good as they had in their photos.

C'mon, Nigerians! Bring it on!