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Is this guy gonna beat the rap?(12 posts)

Is this guy gonna beat the rap?rollo tommassi
Dec 2, 2003 10:39 AM
US Rep Janklow, who killed a motorcyclist, claims he was suffering from a diabetic reaction???

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031202/ap_on_re_us/janklow_trial_18
Worst case scenario:Alexx
Dec 2, 2003 11:20 AM
He beats the rap, but loses his license, due to the fact he had a "diabetic shock". I believe he won't be able to drive for 5-10 years, then....
I'd bet .......YesScot_Gore
Dec 2, 2003 2:37 PM
The judge is not allowing his previous driving record as evidence in the case. The jury will never know that Rep. Janklow has been frequently ticketed for speeding and running stop signs in rural So. Dakota and Minnesota over the last few years. The guy appears to be in the habit of assuming he's the only car on the road in the middle of nowhere and drives accordingly.

Somewhat big news here in Minnesota. The town the victim is from (in Minnesota) has been observing with caution and sketcism as the case has approached trial.

In the So. Dakota press, Janklow is often referred to in the past tense when discussing politics. No matter how this comes out, his career may be done.

Scot
I'd bet .......YesGiant_Tom
Dec 3, 2003 11:59 AM
You're right about the previous driving record, but they are going to let testimony be introduced about a very close call he had at the very same intersection. The biggest reason charges weren't pressed then is because of who he is/was. The woman it happened to figured nothing would happen anyway.

Tom S.
DiabetesTypeOne
Dec 2, 2003 5:07 PM
Ok, I have Type I diabetes (hence the nickname here), while Janklow apparently has Type II. I don't know if insulin shock is quite the same for Type II's, but I know that in my case it can cause all the things his defense counsel claims: lethargy, confusion, etc. Think of the time you bonked, and that's what it can be like. Your body simply has no glycogen, no energy, to operate. It can cause mood swings and irrational behavior.
That said, I'm not defending this weasel. I think using diabetes as an excuse is deplorable; if anything, he should have been more careful before getting behind a wheel. I always test my glucose before driving and have snacks handy. This fool gives diabetics a bad name.
Yepjtolleson
Dec 2, 2003 5:42 PM
It is now doubt true that a severe diabetic episode can cause all of the symptoms at issue (though I don't think Type II's should have that kind of experience) but this is Janklow's second time using his diabetes as an excuse for a driving incident. If that's really the case then he needs to learn to monitor his blood sugar and give up his license.
Diabeteslyleseven
Dec 2, 2003 8:16 PM
I have diabetes too, but the things he said occurred from insulin shock is a crock. He would not be speeding up after bonking from insulin shock which is apparently what he did. This defense is an insult for those who suffer from diabetes. The guy is a creep, plain and simple.
Don't you think it's just a defense and not the truth.Scot_Gore
Dec 2, 2003 9:51 PM
I agree that all the things they mention can happen during a diabetic incident, but, call me a skeptic, but I have a strong suspicion that none of the symptoms were occurring at the time. I think it's just a tactic to try to keep him out of jail.

From personal experience, you are caught maybe 1 in 10 times you speed or commit some other moving violation. If that were the case, based on his ticketing history I'd guess he drives fast and recklessly fulltime. Not because of any problem, it's a choice he's made.

Scot
Don't you think it's just a defense and not the truth.TypeOne
Dec 3, 2003 11:14 AM
I reread my post and you're right, it isn't clear. I don't believe the guy at all.
i've not followed this closely, but...litespeedchick
Dec 3, 2003 6:42 AM
is it usual for someone to be charged with murder in a car accident? Although it sounds like he was reckless regardless , diabetes or not, I'm surprised by the charge.

Around here, a couple of anonymous morons got off with either a ticket or NOTHING when they were at fault in an accident that killed a cyclist.
not a murder chargerollo tommassi
Dec 3, 2003 11:34 AM
he is charged with second-degree manslaughter, a typical charge in auto accidents when there is fatality.
This guy sounds like a first class jerkpmf1
Dec 3, 2003 6:52 AM
He's got a long history of traffic violations. Either he's really careless, or suffers from a lot of reactions.

I hope they nail his public menace hide to a barn door somewhere.