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Ok, time to fess up.(35 posts)

Ok, time to fess up.KG 361
Dec 2, 2003 6:22 AM
How much weight do you typically gain during the "off season" and what would you IDEALLY like to limit it to? Gaining weight is natural as the weather gets colder; I try to limit it to no more than 10, but really I like to keep it at around 5, if at all possible. When I see 10 lbs more, red flags go up and it's time to STOP! =)
over the last 3 winters i've lost substantial weight andJS Haiku Shop
Dec 2, 2003 6:34 AM
increased my fitness on the bike and otherwise. rigid eating schedule, compulsive calorie counting, daily structured workouts, weekend riding regardless of weather, and--last winter--buildup for brevets.

this "off season" is another story. i do have my gym bag stowed in my small carpeted box today, and plan to earn a little of last week's turkey-celebratory beer, this afternoon. guess it's time for me to push back from the table and quit the 16-ounce reps, huh?

this year i'm heavier than since i lost that 50 pounds a few years ago. then again, i'm also riding better than ever before. guess if i drop it right, i'll be the one turning the screws in april.

count me in for 13 pounds, not including what i've gained since may. red flags? i'm at DEFCON 1.

-J (loves beer & taco bell)
over the last 3 winters i've lost substantial weight andKG 361
Dec 2, 2003 6:50 AM
My biggest problem this time of year is that there are too many good bakers where I work-I typically don't eat many baked goods, but the women that I work with keep bringing in cookies and other goodies this time of year. Gotta eat something with the java =)
I'm up 5 pounds..Dave Hickey
Dec 2, 2003 6:50 AM
I hate gaining weight. It usually takes me a couple of months to adjust to eating less. In the summer months I can eat anything I want. This time of year, I'm riding about half of my normal miles(I average 100miles/wk in the winter). I just started running again. I've found it's easier to keep my weight down in the winter with running instead of trying to increase my cycling miles.
re: Ok, time to fess up.JL
Dec 2, 2003 6:52 AM
I would love to say "none", but it's been about 10+ the last few years. The problem is I love to eat/drink :) My plan is to work more this winter than last. I even started running again (gasp!).
It's tough to get motivated, but watching a CX race on Sunday did help. I'm thinking about a CX bike for the fall/winter now, too.

I try not to weigh myself or use the Diet word, but I do try to remember to cut back on the portions. "Everything in moderation" as Julia Child says.

Getting fatter by the day.

John
CX is a blast!KG 361
Dec 2, 2003 7:06 AM
I did my 1st race a couple of weeks ago. Didn't finish DFL, which was my goal. I'd like to do more. It really kicks your arse, for sure. I'm working on a CX bike. Have to pick it up at the shop tomorrow and work on it.
CX is a blast!JL
Dec 2, 2003 7:51 AM
What did you get for CX bike?

I'm looking for a winter/CX bike with some racing next fall.

I took a bunch of photos at the race and put them here

John
CX is a blast!KG 361
Dec 2, 2003 9:41 AM
It's an old Gitane that I had set up as a fixie. It has the old-style brakes that have a ton of clearance and I just had the shop spread the rear trangle to accept a 9 speed hub. I'm going to go with a 1x9 using a 11-34 rear cassette and an XT derailer with bar cons. Cheap is the motto here. If I really get into it I'd probably look at the Soma bike or maybe a Redline.
10 lbstarwheel
Dec 2, 2003 7:05 AM
I typically gain about 10 pounds between early autumn and Christmas. This year, I've already gained about 7 pounds from my lightest point last summer. My mileage is about the same, averaging about 600/month, but I must be eating more. Too many temptations this time of year. It all starts with Halloween candy and goes down from there -- Thanksgiving, Christmas cookies, pumpkin and pecan pies.

Ideally, I would like to lose some weight now -- about 15-20 lbs. I am seriously considering going back on the Atkins diet during the winter months when it's hard to ride as much. I can't handle the low-carb diet when I'm cycling a lot of miles, but could probably do it now. That's the only diet that's ever worked for me. I lost 15 pounds in one month on Atkins and kept the weight off. My problem is that I love bread, cereal, pasta and other carbs.
I set off the "high level alarm" Friday morning...biknben
Dec 2, 2003 7:06 AM
My High level alarm is set at 160#. After the holiday weekend, it was buzzing, beeping, and flashing.

My inlaws make me a tin of Choc. Chip cookies whenever they see me. Gee thanks!?! I have an extreme weekness for choc. chips and M&M's. I arrived on Wed., the tin was empty when I left on Friday. I didn't skimp on Thanksgiving Dinner either.

Oh course my wife gets an Outback craving on Saturday. The Outback is one of the few places where I just unleash on the menu. Cheese fries? Sure! Ceasar Salad? Why not? I'll have the steak that hangs off both ends of the plate please. Oh, BTW, I don't do doggy bags.

The damage report showed an additional 5 pounds had been added to my frame on Monday. I guess I'll be riding a few extra miles this week.

I'm not sure if it should be called "The off-season" or "The feeding season". :-(
biknben, got a good chuckle from your "confession". nmmainframe
Dec 2, 2003 11:10 AM
Yeah...My eating habits do not help my training...:-)biknben
Dec 2, 2003 12:00 PM
My eating habits are really messed up. Somehow I'm able to maintain my current weight without too much trouble.
3 to 5 lbs of muscleContinental
Dec 2, 2003 7:11 AM
More emphasis on weight training in winter produces strength gains and 3 to 5 lbs of muscle. Dead relatives provide incentive not to gain body fat. Riding is down to about 50 miles per week and 1 45 minute trainer session.
3 to 5 lbs of muscle???Asiago
Dec 2, 2003 8:38 AM
You really gain that much muscle? This is my first time ever weight lifting so I have no clue. So far 21 sessions of 45min to 1hr. I wonder if any of my weight gain could be muscle? I hope so...

Asiago
Oh yeah, and a few inches toopitt83
Dec 2, 2003 8:50 AM
My training bud and I went kind of heavy on the weights last off season. I got a beautiful cashmere sportcoat for christmas (44 long). By May, when I decided to wear it, the coat was way too tight. I've since lost that bulk from simply aerobic training and won't go that mental on the weights again.

Pants fitting properly are a different issue. My thighs and butt are so over-developed from cycling (hill training)that jeans are a real tough purchase now.
Easily 3 to 5 lbs of muscle, probably morePaulCL
Dec 2, 2003 8:52 AM
Since the weather outside is frightful, the gym is so delightful....OK, that was stupid.

Seriously, last year I gained a minimum of 5lbs in muscle, more like 8-10. Why? My aerobic activity is replaced by lifting. I'm in the gym 3 days per week lifting vs maybe 1 day/week during the season. Overall, I gained about 10-13lbs last year and worked like a dog to drop them in the spring. It's very hard to lose muscle weight. Not bad to put it on in the legs, but who needs pec's while climbing mountains?

My goal for this year:
1. Gain less than 10lbs. I started watching my diet last month before it got out of hand.
2. Change my lifting regimen. I will do more lower body and higher rep upper body lifting.
3. Do more spinning and ride outside any chance I can get.
4. I'll try to run once in a while too. I plan to spend 5-10 minutes on the stationary bike or stairmaster after each lifting session.

I rode most of the year at 185 (I'm 6'1"), but started the year pushing the 200 lb barrier. Currently, I'm in the low 190's and would like to even drop from there. If I could go into the first of march at 185lb, I would be thrilled becuase I know I'd be at 175-180 by June. Heck, I haven't seen 180lbs for over a decade!!
Maybe... but I'm guessing not more than 5lbs muscle maxColnagoFE
Dec 2, 2003 9:00 AM
To gain muscle you also usually gain fat unless you are chemically enhancing things. In about a 6 month period I went from 20% body fat to about 10% by lifting and eating clean. Went from 215 to about 183 pounds. I only gained about 2-3 pounds of actual muscle during that time. To gain 10+ pounds of muscle you have to eat like a horse and often you gain quite a bit of fat as you do muscle. Pro bodybuilders then go on a cutting phase. You then lose some muscle in the process when you diet. Can't really avoid it.
You have burst my bubblePaulCL
Dec 2, 2003 11:25 AM
The reason I guessed that much is becuase my 41 long jacket fits in September, but not even close in February. I take a 43 long then. My waist stays about the same - maybe a shade tighter on the pants. I guess I was rearranging the weight more than adding muscle.

Either way, I'm changing the workout structure this year.

paul
not saying it's impossibleColnagoFE
Dec 2, 2003 2:41 PM
Just that I'd think any "normal" person would have a pretty hard time packing on 10 pounds of muscle that fast without steroids or eating every 2 hours.
I used to PANIC with weight gainK-Man
Dec 2, 2003 7:30 AM
I was always one of those "eat anything and not gain any weight". Well I got older and my first few winters of gaining weight put me in a panic. Now after several years of the winter weight gain I just get ready for it and try to limit it to about 10 lbs. This winter I'm probably already up 10 but have been lifting so about 1/2 that is due to the lifting. I will continue to allow myself to splurge on food until after XMas....then quiting cold turkey on the junk food.

The one thing I did learn was NOT to buy new clothes in the winter, they tend to fall off my a$$ in the summer.

KMan
I ride through the Southern Wisc./ N. Illinois winters but..Tom C
Dec 2, 2003 7:33 AM
I still gain about 7 lbs. I'm currently still at 125 which is what I get down to by summer but I was fortunate enough to get in over 650 miles this November just past.
Not a happy topic.dzrider
Dec 2, 2003 7:41 AM
I've gone from 170 to 196 the past 4 years, but I can't describe it as seasonal gain. The weight I gain from Thanksgiving to New Year's is gone by the end of January which is about how long my will power lasts. The creeping upward goes on throughout the year, unchecked by bulimic exercise much less anything resembling self-control around food.
15-20 pounds usually (nm)ColnagoFE
Dec 2, 2003 8:07 AM
My new 3 step method for rapid wieght losscyclinseth
Dec 2, 2003 8:28 AM
1. break up with girlfriend (or boyfriend)

2. Get EXTREMELY depressed

3. stop eating any solid food for 1 week

I lost about 8 lbs and it miraculously all came from the last remaining fat deposits around my mid-section. For the first time in my life I have a (sort of) washboard stomach. Of course my cycling performance plumeted, but it was bound to do that over the winter months anyway.

Actually, I had accidentally put myself on the Atkins diet. I have a vegan protien/nutrion formula that I mix in with my green juice. I lived on that excusively for a week.
Well, this is my first "off-season"Asiago
Dec 2, 2003 8:30 AM
But so far, I'd say I'm up 5lbs from this season, but 7-10lbs up from where I want to be next season. This may not seem like much, but I'm not huge at 146lbs so it is more significant and secondly, I LOVE to eat! And I mean LOVE to eat. It's actually why I picked the bike up a few years ago...

Asiago
just enough to keep me warm nmcyclopathic
Dec 2, 2003 8:56 AM
re: Ok, time to fess up.Saddle_Sore
Dec 2, 2003 9:12 AM
I'm a bit of a fat-arse at 176lbs/80kg and I'm only 5'10" but I do a lot of weight training (5 days out of seven whilst at work) so that might account for some of the lard. Ideally I'd like to lose weight this (and every winter) although I have been at my current weight for about 10 years now - perhaps it's my optimum?

Anyway, I am trying to find new ways to lose weight and not muscle. I don't fancy the Atkins diet though, coupla years from now I reckon that all the Atkins-advocates will be down at the doc's getting their colons sluiced out!

Cycling-wise, I find winter riding quite demanding due to adverse conditions but I am limited distance wise by the duration of my bike lights (2 hours maximum).
Alarm bells are going off...Psalm 147-10_11
Dec 2, 2003 9:52 AM
During the summer I'm around 188 to 192. This morning, I hit 200 (I'm 6'3" and 40 years old). Yikes. Time to stop eating.

I'm playing basketball one night a week, riding 2 or 3 times (20 - 30 miles), but have been eating more carbos. During the season, I'm riding 5 -6 days a week and have a protein shake for breakfast. Lately, I've been finding myself eating bagels, or worse... donuts. I wonder why I'm gaining?
200 isn't all that heavy for 6'3"ColnagoFE
Dec 2, 2003 10:52 AM
Suppose it depends how much is muscle and how much is fat though.
Up between 5 and 8 lbsSpecialTater
Dec 2, 2003 10:13 AM
my weight alarm is going off nightly and my wife constantly reminds me. I start snoring when I hit 180. Mine is a combination of a new baby, daylight savings and all the good food that shows up at my house and at work.
Last Winter none, this winter I hope to lose 10-15 poundsbimini
Dec 2, 2003 11:46 AM
My wife has been after me to go on the South Beach Diet with her but I have been reluctant to go without my carbs during the cycling season. I normally ride 200 miles a week and I don't like going without my Gatoraid, & granola bars. In the winter, I back off to about 75 miles a week with shorter / easier rides so bonking due to low carbs should not be a problem. I have the 10 pounds of body fat I would love to give up. Long steep hills are my weakness during races so dropping the weight should help a lot.

The first race of the season is the worst when it comes to hills. It is a 6 lap circuit race that starts and finishes on a long, very steep hill that I have to standup and grind up even with a 39-25. It would be nice to be able to hang on to the pack up this hill for a change.

If I loose the 15 pounds I plan to reward myself with a new/used light weight bike. I can rationalize spending the bucks on light weight equipment if I got rid of all the free fat first.
+ or - 5lb, hopefully minusgeeker
Dec 2, 2003 12:11 PM
I mostly run and snowshoe during the winter. If the creaky old joints allow me to run much, I should lose a few pounds. I ride so many hills in the other 3 seasons that I typically lose some lbs of muscle from glute/quad area. Moderate running keeps weight down for me more than moderate cycling.
I'm happy to say that I am losing weight!853
Dec 2, 2003 3:41 PM
I really want to do well next season, and now is the time to do it.
I've lost 10lbs this winter, but my goal for this winter is to lose 30lbs - 20 more to go!
Thanksgiving was about the only day I let go. I lowered my calorie intake the week up to thanksgiving and that kind of compensated for the feast - I even lost 1lb that week!
not too much, but it gets redistributed...peter1
Dec 2, 2003 8:25 PM
I have to quit riding cold turkey by mid-november because I'm usually bored stiff by riding the same roads. I'll pick it up again in January if the roads are clear. I usually gain about 7 lbs. but what hurts me is losing muscle mass in my legs and gaining love handles. Happily, I can usually get back to where I want to be (155 lbs, 5'11") by mid April. This year I've had back problems on and off soo I may take the whole winter off and focus more on yoga and weight lifting. I'd like not to gain any weight in the winter but the holiday season gets crazier every year, so I've just written it off as far as physical activity...
None............Len J
Dec 3, 2003 4:21 AM
I've already had the weight gain.

With my travel schedule, I only get to ride two days/week. When I first started this schedule, I put on about 8 pounds & couldn't seem to get rid of it. Finally, I changed my eating habits and reduced portion size & Now I have shed the entire 8 pounds.

I learned the hard way that I have to adjust my intake to my riding time, the less riding time the less intake. Simple in theory, harder in practice, but it does work.

Len