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Heading out on my first 50miler tomorrow- a few questions(16 posts)

Heading out on my first 50miler tomorrow- a few questionsglobalhelipimp
Nov 22, 2003 3:41 PM
Well, winter is nearing and there's no way I plan on
bringing my steel Zurich out once it snows. I had wanted
to do at least a 50 mile ride before the snow comes, and
tomorrow is looking the day for it.

When I start, the temperature should be around 45/50ºF.
Hopefully it won't go above 55ºF. This is what I plan on
wearing ..

upper: bottom layer: sleeveless asics shirt
middle layer: long sleeve half-zipper
thermo/breathable coolmax shirt
outer layer: short-sleeve cycling jersey

lower: bottom layer: cycling shorts
outer layer: asics light-weight tights

Should I be OK wearing this?

Food wise I plan on bringing a few different kinds/flavors
of cereal bars; should this be enough food? Bring other things?
I'll be bringing two-water bottles, and filling them up at the
halfway point.

My small Jandd saddle bag will be holding: 3-CO2 cartridges,
CO2/valve adapter, 2-tire levers, spare tube, cell phone, small map,
and probably $10 or so.

Recommend anything else?

With the items listed above, the saddle bag is pretty full.

I know riding 50 miles is a daily ride for some of you, but my top
ride is only 35 miles. I took a 25 mile ride yesterday and felt
fine. Prior to this, I hadn't rode in approx 2-3wks.

((waits for insightful information))

A map of my planned route is below (in blue).


re: Heading out on my first 50miler tomorrow- a few questionsglobalhelipimp
Nov 22, 2003 3:44 PM
50milerMike Tea
Nov 22, 2003 3:58 PM
Your clothing sounds fine Dave. For 50f I'd be wearing one layer more than for summer riding. That would be, for me, a thin jacket and lycra tights.

Drink a couple of glasses of water in the hours before you leave. Your food & drink sounds ok.

The tools sound ok but I'd be leaving one tire lever at home. My tires come off with just one. I'd be taking a chain tool myself but then I've broken a chain 26 miles from home in below freezing weather too.

Unless you're fast I'd plan on taking about 3-4 hours for this ride and riding at a "talking" pace whilst NEVER going into the red zone.

You'll do just fine. Tell us how ya went on.
Everything sounds fineDave Hickey
Nov 18, 2003 6:18 AM
Gear and food sound fine. The only question I might have is you might be overdressing on the top. It all depends on what temps your use to and if you'll deal with a lot in wind. If you do overheat on top, you can always stop and remove the base layer. I prefer a jacket or armwarmers becasue they are very easy to remove with the temps rise.

It sounds like you've really thought this out. Have a great time and let us know how you did.
re: You should be finehudsonite
Nov 22, 2003 4:39 PM
You will be fine. I would probably wear a windproof vest instead of the outside cycling jersey, but that is because I like to be able to regulate my temperature as the days goes from cold to not so cold and back; zipping and unzipping as required. Make sure you have gloves, your hands will get cold without them.

I would also take a bottle of gatorade/powerade on a trip of this length. It provides the sodium and potassium you will need after sweating for a while. My water bottles never see water anymore.

Make sure you carry some ID in case something were to happen.

As this is your first long journey, remember to take it easy on the first half and then use what you have left for a fast finish. Some long distance riders suggest that you never use the big ring starting out. Try to keep yourself at a steady pace and avoid stopping as much as possible. Your body will cool down and make it harder to start up again.

One other thing to bring is a couple of Vitamin I - otherwise called advil. if you start to feel some pain, the advil will relieve the inflamation and keep you going. Some of the older riders take one or two before they do a long ride.

Your tools sound fine. You might want to throw in a couple of extra patches. When flats happen, they sometimes happen in 'groups'. On one ride this summer, one of our buddies got 5 flats in a 100 miles. We went through a lot of tubes and patches that day. He never had any flats before and never any flats after. Go figure.

You will be fine. The first 50mile/80km ride is a milestone ride for lots of cyclists. After this, you will be well on your way to doing 100 miles and then more.

Have fun
good luck, keep grindin'!soulsurfer104
Nov 22, 2003 5:42 PM
i remember the first time i did 50, and its a fond memory. in my humble opinion, you have too much food. i just had 2 bottles of cytomax and 4 packs of GU and i was fine, and my ride included some moderate hills, and it was on a warm day. if anything, invest in some aero-bars. 25 miles into a headwind sucks, especially when its the second half of your ride. (sidenote: the first time i did 50, it took 2:52) good luck, enjoy, and remember: what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger.
WHEN TO EAT?globalhelipimp
Nov 22, 2003 6:35 PM
How often into the ride should I eat, and how much?

Thanks for the info thus far- very helpful.

Nov 23, 2003 6:52 AM
This may be too late, but I'd eat at around 1 hr and then again every hr or so. I think that you may have overdone the dressing on top. I'm usuallly fine in the 40's with a base layer, LS jersey, and a vest, but that's just me.
You're kidding , right? nmTom C
Nov 22, 2003 7:50 PM
We all have to start somewhere.KG 361
Nov 23, 2003 6:54 AM
Not everyone who posts here rouitinely does 50+ mile rides. Bet there was a time when you did 20 and thought that it was a major accomplishment.
We all have to start somewhere.Tom C
Nov 23, 2003 8:29 AM
It was more the extraordinarily elaborate preparation than anything else. It wasn't my intent to cut him down, it just struck me that rewatering at 25 miles, the varietal foodstuffs and the clothing detail for what was involved appeared well, over the top.
We all have to start somewhere.KG 361
Nov 23, 2003 10:35 AM
I agree, but to someone who has never done that distance and is a detail freak (don't know that for sure, but just guessing...) it perhaps seemed a little daunting and he just wants to be "prepared".
I doubt.............Mike Tea
Nov 23, 2003 11:06 AM
.....that he was kidding. Why would anyone make up questions like that just for the purpose of pulling our collective legs?

So assuming he wasn't kidding, can you imagine how your elitist question would sound to him? He's never done this length of a ride before, had concerns and asked some valid questions.

Best maybe just to ignore him if his questions are beneath you rather than coming off as some kind of distance snob.
I doubt.............Tom C
Nov 23, 2003 9:19 PM
Perhaps my problem is more generational than elitist. Modern times it seems kids in school are habituated to receiving medals or certificates for simply participating. I think the other fellow had a good insight in guessing a detail freak here. More power to him that he could ask. I know I couldn't.
Drop a 1/2 bag of Cheetos tonight. nmfirstrax
Nov 22, 2003 10:05 PM
re: Heading out on my first 50miler tomorrow- a few questionspomole
Nov 24, 2003 6:56 AM
You should be fine. I did my first 50 miler this summer and the biggest obstacle was mental. "Wow 50 miles."

Be sure to eat, and drink alot. dont be afraid to take some breaks. youll feel better in the end.