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Any experience with HH bicycles?(6 posts)

Any experience with HH bicycles?bikerbob
Nov 22, 2003 5:10 AM
I'm looking at the HH frame for sale on E-bay and in the RBR classifieds. I've never heard of them before, but their website makes them sound as if they produce a nice frame. Has any one out there had any experience with HH?
Thanks,
Bob
re: Any experience with HH bicycles?shopclass69
Nov 22, 2003 5:57 AM
They sponsor the club i ride/race for. A bunch of great guys. I've been in the workshop and some of the one offs and custom builds are astounding. My next rig will be a custom HH. Just gotta float it past the bookkeeper first...
re: Any experience with HH bicycles?curlybike
Nov 22, 2003 6:09 AM
I own two of them and know of more than a dozen in our club. They are well made and Harry is a real nice guy to do business with. There is a tremendous value for the buck with his frames. You must be aware that a previously owned frame could have problems that are not the fault of the builder. Harry makes a lot of customs that will not appear on the website so you may be looking at something really special. I have a friend that has 2 scandiums that HH made and he and his wife love them. They also have 2 other HH singles and a HH tandem. HH must be doing something right.
re: Any experience with HH bicycles?curlybike
Nov 22, 2003 6:18 AM
I just checked the ads and that is a super deal for that frame. They are stiff in the jump but still have a nice ride in the bumpy or rough stuff. I know several people with that model frame and they all love it. The welding is incredible.
One thing to keep in mindNessism
Nov 22, 2003 8:13 AM
HH frames have the rear brake installed backwards compared to everyone else in the industry; caliper is installed on the forward side of the brake bridge. Of course, the cable runs on the RH side of the top tube. Bit strange in my opinion.

Ed
I've talked with Harry about this...Swat Dawg
Nov 22, 2003 12:56 PM
I went out on rides from the original HH shop in Media, PA twice a week this summer. Met Harry, the other shop guys, got a tour of his framebuilding shop, and watched an upcoming olympic track racers frame being welded.I feel like a know a celebrity or something, but anyway...When Harry gave me a tour of his framebuilding shop, I asked, "Harry wheel do you put the brake on the backward?" DOH! (First lesson, never intimate a framebuilders design is wrong.) Harry's cool thought and replied, "Everybody else actually put their brakes on backward." He went on to explain that the rear brake is put between the seatpost and seatstay because when the seatstay flexes under braking force the will bow. As they bow they also drag the brake in an arc along the rim. When the brake is on top of the seatstay the deformation will draw the brake down toward the hub and away from the thicker part of the rim which is at the outermost edge. Whereas when it is underneath, it is drawn up toward the top the outermost edge and the thickest part of the rim. My ability to envision exactly how it works is not all that strong, but for those of you with better visual minds you can probably understand what I'm saying. Maybe if you can explain better that would be good. I might even have it backward. But in any case, when he explained it and gave me the visual tutorial it makes sense and is a simple way to get better braking power with no addition hardware. His frames are really high quality, and he is really dedicated to excellent customer service and creating an excellent product. Hope that helps.

Swat Dawg