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Strong Ti or Steel?(11 posts)

Strong Ti or Steel?6was9
Nov 19, 2003 6:42 PM
I'm thinking of getting a Strong custom frame as an all around durable everyday bike to take advantage of 20% off sale they have going. Since All their frames come with life time warranty I won't have to worry about mounting it on a trainer. Thinking of Ti but I am not yet completely convinced of all its merit. Steel frame is $800 less than dbl butted Ti.

Is $1760 Strong double butted custom ti(frame only) a good deal or should I go with $2400 Litespeed Tuscany Ultegra complete bike instead though it's not a custom frame? I do have a longish torso. I am fairly comfortable on a Standard Colnago frame but not sure whether it really fits me thus I want to check out a custom frame.

Should I forget about Ti and go with $960 Strong custom steel?

I'd appreciate your input.
re: Strong Ti or Steel?Rusty Coggs
Nov 19, 2003 7:21 PM
Read the warranty.It likely is lifetime for defects in material and workmanship,not anything you care to dream up.
re: Strong Ti or Steel?6was9
Nov 19, 2003 7:58 PM
I would think frame damage such as stress fracture from being mounted on a trainer for extended period be covered by warranty(if that ever happens; I am not about to put my good bikes on trainer for the winter.)
re: Read the warranty....Rusty Coggs
Nov 20, 2003 6:21 AM
Don't think or assume anything.
My $0.02Nessism
Nov 19, 2003 7:22 PM
The only reason to go Ti is for the durability of the finish. If you are the type to ride the same frame for years and years, Ti is great. Otherwise, a steel frame will perform just as well but save you some cash.

Regarding your need for custom, it sounds like you need to find a knowledgeable person check your position on the Colnago. From there, you should be able to determine your need for custom.

Good luck.

Ed
My $0.01lyleseven
Nov 19, 2003 8:32 PM
I have both Ti and Steel, both custom. If a production frame will fit, no problem, but I found much better fit in custom. Ti is a bit stiffer than my steel bike, but only notice it when you jump out of saddle. If you ride alot and want to keep bike for years, go Ti custom IMHO.
My .03...Rusty Coggs
Nov 20, 2003 6:26 AM
Ti isn't always stiffer than steel.It depends on how they are bult.
The trainer point s/b a non-issue...Tom C
Nov 19, 2003 9:14 PM
You can get a cheap steel frameset for trainer use or even a complete beater on ebay that you can sweat on and throw away if you're so inclined. I've gotten frames for winter use for as little as $25. Those are also the only ones that I would use on a trainer.
Thanks...6was9
Nov 20, 2003 1:06 PM
a lot. Now I got a headache going thru the ebay listing. Now I know why I haven't been to ebay in ages. What's the deal with not listing the frame size? Would make it a whole lot easier...
Carl's warranty is based on your satisfaction, and his lifetime..miposy
Nov 20, 2003 11:00 AM
...so basically you are covered for awhile, as Carl is only 40 years old and in good health (just got married too, and statistically this will extend his life further). He does ride fast though, road and mountain, so you never know. He knows he is in a competative business, and goes the extra mile to keep his customers happy. FYI, his last two bikes he built for himself were Ti, but his newest one is going to be Scandium.

Per the trainer, talk to him about that and how that might affect the frame.

Specific to your Ti vs. Steel question, Carl really enjoys welding Ti, and does a great job of it (ask other owners, Carl has a list of them to provide for you).

My Strong Frame is Foco steel, and I love it. I ordered it initially asking for a compliant ride for commuting, so Carl built it that way. I have lately been wanting it a bit stiffer to keep up with buddies on fast road rides (yeah, like that will help, but I can dream), so Carl is going to brace it at the chain stays for me to stiffen it up, and is doing so for a very, very low price. I'll also be taking the opportunity to change the bike from red to deep purple.

Bottom line, though, is that if you can afford the Ti frame then buy it. You won't regret it. If money is somewhat of a concern then go with the steel which you will also love.

Good luck!

Michael
That's better...6was9
Nov 20, 2003 12:56 PM
I have a feeling that he will live longer than moi. It's $800 more but I might go with Ti since I have a steel already. It is one of those pretty bike which I kinda baby thus I wanted something more durable everyday road bike.

Now should I get the ti frame painted or have it raw? I've always wanted a red bike but I guess you are getting tired of your red frame.

Thanks.