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Awesome article on the bike biz (x-post)(7 posts)

Awesome article on the bike biz (x-post)undertrained
Nov 19, 2003 12:20 PM
Found this on MTBreview.

Steve-O Nov-19-03, 11:24 AM
"Excellent Article on the Manufacturing of Bikes"
Any of you that have been around the MTBr Forums for any length of time have seen debates on Asian manufacturing, bicycle testing, component engineering, distribution, etc.
The following link is from the triathlete website It was written by the founder of Quintana Roo (bike mfr now owned by ABG - Litespeed's parent company). It is a very revealing look into how most bikes are designed, spec'ed, produced, and finally sold. Take some time to read this one... Enjoy!
Nov 19, 2003 12:29 PM
Credit for digging up this gem really goes to flybyvine.

It's a good read, huh? It is pretty interesting for me as I periodically ride with some of the SRAM gang here in Chicago and often listen to them discuss their trips to Taiwan to get their products made.

Steve-O on MTBr = Chicago_Steve on RBR
great article and I thought science was bad!andy02
Nov 19, 2003 1:24 PM
I am not surprised he lost QR however. I ordered a kilo when they were a somewhat new company and it took almost a year to get it (it was custom and weighted ~2.12 pounds for the frame and this was in 94-95)
great article and I thought science was bad!asgelle
Nov 19, 2003 1:34 PM
If by "lost" you mean sold at a profit to pursue other areas.
Great article, Thanks. nmtoronto-rider
Nov 19, 2003 1:37 PM
environmental bummergtx
Nov 19, 2003 4:40 PM
Certain rivers in Taiwan are absolutely sterile of life because of what factories dump into them, and the bike factories are no exception. It's sorry to see, because Taiwan is, in its natural state, not unlike Hawaii. It's a tropical paradise with mountains that reach 13,000 feet into the sky. But when I go running in Taipei I have to take a taxi 2000 feet up Yanming Mountain, just outside of town, so that I can run above the thick belt of smog.

That's frankly one of the allures to having your bike made in Taiwan or Mainland China. Your paint is on that frame for good. There's no way any shop in America would be allowed to use the sort of paint, or the processes, that are used in the Orient. What it does to the environment, or to the workers who make the product, is another story.
Nov 19, 2003 7:29 PM
My wife is from Taipei (in US since 11 y.o.) and we visited Taipei, Taichung, and Kaoshung about 4 years ago. During the entire visit we stayed with relatives and explored the cities. The author's description is fairly accurate. There are plenty of open drains throughout each city and the odor from the trash and other substances is pretty horrendous.

We did some hiking over two days in Alishan, which is a mountainous resort area in central Taiwan. One of my most vivid memories is hiking through a bamboo forest to a rocky cliff that looked over a foggy valley. While my wife and I took pictures and admired the beauty I looked at the rocks directly below our ledge and saw that they were strewn with trash that had been dumped from our spot... Kind of a bummer to see that in a national park that most visitors consider a national treasure...