|Nice local article about Vanilla bikes||PdxMark|
Nov 18, 2003 1:57 PM
And mine gets started in a month or so. Now I'm thinking of adding S&S couplers for that easy traveling I dream of.
|re: Nice local article about Vanilla bikes||Dropped|
Nov 18, 2003 1:59 PM
|I'm one of those guys who stops and stares for a half hour every time I see one around town, with just a hint of drool on the chin.|
|re: Nice local article about Vanilla bikes||PdxMark|
Nov 18, 2003 3:23 PM
|I keep going back to his web site and re-oogling the same frame photos. I'm narrowing in on the design I want. A real hodge-podge of features. Much like this frame:
Note the horizontal rear drops with a derailleur hanger
So I can run it fixed gear, or not. It'll have canti brakes to be fender-capable for extended winter-time riding like brevets - but not so extended a geometry as a touring bike. Plus, I like the stainless steel stays:
Finally, I'm leaning toward a dark amber color, like at this website:
Nov 18, 2003 6:52 PM
|Lovely bikes. I'm jealous you're getting one, and I don't get jealous often. The guy is definitely an artist. An artisan.|
|Beautiful Bikes...how you rate VB with regard to||bent_spoke|
Nov 18, 2003 7:15 PM
|value for money? I have not basis to gauge the price. Is the VB a good deal or is cost not a consideration, since they're so nicely made? Also, what kind of warranty did you get?
Have fun with your new VB....
|Beautiful Bikes...how you rate VB with regard to||PdxMark|
Nov 18, 2003 11:00 PM
|Value for money? I think it's a good deal. The frame price is on par with the prices of many custom frame builders. His prices were lower a few months ago, just before I ordered my frame. Oh well...
My wife has a Landshark, which is a lovely bike - supple filet brazed joints, clean lines, just-wild-enough paint job. It's a great bike for the money, especially for the price at gvhbikes.com. I can recommend it whole-heartedly.
The Vanilla is a bit different. The Vanilla metalwork steps outside conventional lines, such as by (optionally) using stainless steel in several different ways. The full spectrum choice from among 10,000 possible colors (like some other builders) adds a bit of a difference to the bike. Those differences give the bikes the feel & look of being a lugged heirloom that you'll want to ride hard in any and all conditions.
Also, Sacha is not all that far removed from his bike messenger days. His feel and enthusiam for fixed gear, cyclocross & even commuter riding seems to bridge the philosophical gap between classic & sensible Rivendell and regular road rockets like Landshark and so many others. Besides, his shop is in my neighborhood, half a mile from my house, and he's a great guy to talk with.
Fundamentally, I think a bike choice it subjective, with a fair bit of emotional feel mixed in with whatever objective rationality can be mustered. I just like Sacha's bikes alot.
|Thanks....it's easy to see your enthusiam for VB...[nm||bent_spoke|
Nov 19, 2003 9:16 AM