|Vred.tri-comp Vs. Conti- Grand prix 3000 and tire questions.||shakyfish|
Nov 18, 2003 10:45 AM
|I am looking for a little input on my next tire purchase. My only experience is with the Conti 3000. I have heard that the Vredestein is good and I do like the possibilities of higher pressure also. I was not too pleased with the tread life of the conti's. I am a little unsure what to expect though. I have about 1300 on the conti's and the tread is wore out in the center-no thread showing just pretty bald I guess. How do I know when they are really gone? Not like a car with wear strips.
I'm open to all suggestions on this. I am pretty big, 250 pounds. Will the higher pressure with the Vreds give me longer tread life then or just wear out the center faster? I do rotate the tires when I start seeing rear wear.
Help me out with a few suggestions if you will.
Nov 18, 2003 11:05 AM
|With the tire off, you can feel both sides of the tire and see how thin the center section has become. With the tire still on the rim and inflated, all you can go by is how flat the center is and how worn the tread is. Contis do have a tread, so compare the rear to the front one and you will see how much tread has worn off.
These are fairly lightweight tires to begin with, so there isn't an excess amount of rubber in the center. Be conservative in your estimate. I noticed when the center section gets too worn, you will get a flat because the rubber is too thin and cannot fend off ordinary debris from the road.
Many here complain that Conti 3000 treadlife is short. Lots of folks report mileage here and very few get over 2500 miles on a rear tire. Lots report fewer than 1000.
I have over 2000 miles on mine and are probably less than 50% worn on the rear and almost brand new looking on the front. But I hate these tires because the sidewalls get scuffed and cut and scraped much easier than other brands.
|Oh, and the search will give lots more info as well nm||Fez|
Nov 18, 2003 11:06 AM
|when you see the cord coming through||cyclopathic|
Nov 18, 2003 11:07 AM
|then the tire is done. Sounds you have a few hundred miles left in you Conti. Thread imprint on road bike tires is purely aesthetical, unlike on car tires. In general I wouldn't expect tire life more then 1500 for your weight.
And no you don't rotate tires: rear squares pretty fast you don't want it up front to compromise cornering. When it is time to replace rear the common practice is to buy one, put new front, move front back good luck.
|re: Vred.tri-comp Vs. Conti- Grand prix 3000 and tire questions.||PEDDLEFOOT|
Nov 18, 2003 12:00 PM
|I've ridden both and in my case I got more tread life out of the Conti's.I'm about half your weight though so I may not be the best person to give advice.On the whole I think the Vred's are a little smoother even at higher pressure but the Conti's gave better traction especially in the rain.
I got about 3200 on the Conti's now and I probably can get another 500 out of the rear and maybe 1000 on the front if I'm lucky.The Vred's on my other bike have already started to square off with only about 1100 on them.I usually inflate to 110 psi on both.Being a larger fellow you probably need to go a little higher.In that case the Vred's might help.
If I would recommend one tire over the other I would say go with the Conti's.Good luck.
One other thing.I've had 1 flat on the Conti's due to a peice of barbed wire straight into the tire.I don't think any tire could have stopped it.No flats yet(knock on wood) to the Vred's.
|Between the 2, I'd take the Vred's||AJS|
Nov 18, 2003 5:22 PM
|I've ridden the Conti 3000's, and while they had good grip and average wear, I hated the ride. Rough and stiff to me. |
The Vred Fortezza's are a better handling and riding tire, IMHO. And I swear by the Vred Campo's for my CX bike - best 'cross tire I've ever used.
As far as wear, I change tires long before the casing starts to show through the rubber. If you wait that long, you are definitely asking for a blow-out. Bike tires aren't that expensive that I want to be risking a serious hospital stay.
What I do is buy tires in 3's - you can generally wear two rear's out to one front.
|re: Vred.tri-comp Vs. Conti- Grand prix 3000 and tire questions.||al0|
Nov 19, 2003 8:44 AM
|Try to found Conti Grand Prix (without 3000), thay are a way cheaper and have longer life (due to different compound), grip is slightly worse, but very, very slightly.|
|Thanks a ton for the advice all!! nm.||shakyfish|
Nov 19, 2003 7:45 PM