|he bike/she bike: does you bike have gender?||cyclopathic|
Nov 17, 2003 9:49 AM
|/triggered by CritLover comment, who found offensive to refer to bike as she/. Hope most might find it perfectly acceptable to give feminine (or masculine) name to your bike w/o being called sexist.
I can see the reasoning to either. If you take a "riding bike is like making love" position you come with one preference, and naming it opposite would trigger questions of your sexual orientation. On other hand if you merely view your bike as body extension, giving it feminine name it would be like naming it "Princess Sofia".
Now for me most bikes are "it", it is just a tool. However some do have "gender", and it depends on bike.
- Bianchi /she, sounds to close to Bianca/
|hmmm, my bikes are always she bikes.....||namaSSte|
Nov 17, 2003 10:02 AM
|but very different. My road bikes have been somewhat the princesses, preferring couture and elegance whereas my mtb, she's just plain dirty (and that ain't such a bad thing sometimes, lol!).
Honestly though, it's more in line with the tradition of naming ships (usually a she). I can't honestly say my bikes are totally inanimate to me though. I'm not saying we have a lot of in depth conversations but there does seem to be something unspoken between us that "speaks" to me at times. Want proof? Try selling a bike you've had for any length of time and tell me you don't have feelings about it, errrr, her. Yup, there's more than just metal and carbon fiber there, I just don't know what to call that.
|wouldn't want to sit on a he bike's seat! nm||brad nicholson|
Nov 17, 2003 10:10 AM
|another great observation...||namaSSte|
Nov 17, 2003 10:18 AM
|I was going to say another good point but that could be misconstrued way too easily, lol!|
|you don't name your shoes, do you?||cyclopathic|
Nov 17, 2003 10:18 AM
|well my daughter does, she calls one Mitsy and another one Lulu ;)
What I mean that you can be attached to some unanimated object (like cloth you wear) w/o naming it. There's also a slew of other genderless names like "Arrow", etc
|actually I do....||namaSSte|
Nov 17, 2003 11:10 AM
|I named one right and the other left. Maybe it's just me, but it really helps out when I get dressed in the morning.|
|no names, all geldings. (nm)||terry b|
Nov 17, 2003 10:09 AM
|An extension of myself...so I gues I refer to it as..I or me. nm||Marketing Dept|
Nov 17, 2003 10:19 AM
|"It," though they have names...||chbarr|
Nov 17, 2003 10:23 AM
|All its, but they have names:
The Trek 1000 is just the "Trek" or "road bike." This was when first I had but one Trek, then but one road bike. I played with "climbing bike" or "century bike" for a while, but it never stuck. Trek seems to be its default these days.
The commuter (a Trek hybrid) is the "Traffic Slayer" after a cartoon (a commuter with a sword takes on a line of cars, with a semi- reared back like a dragon). That has stuck, interchnaged with "the commuter."
Finally, the new road bike is a LeMond Maillot Jaune is called simply "The Mally." In part because "Maillot Jaune" is too long to say; in part because, until recently, I could't pronounce it (despite having a Cajun surname with a similar "double-L's as Y's" form). It's also "The LeMond," but "Mally" has taken hold.
On second thought, I occassionally use "he," but that is also a default for computer equipment (and carry-over from a former co-worker).
|does you bike have gender?||Fredrico|
Nov 17, 2003 10:32 AM
|The soul of a bike most surely comes from the builder, who tends one way or the other to "masculine" or "feminine."
DeRosa is unquestionably feminine: the silky smooth ride, the amazing willingness to respond to anything the rider wishes with a high spirited quickness (a steep headtube angle!), a willingness to go the distance, almost talking back while hammering up a hill, "Come on, baby! We can make it!" Then of course, there is the heart shaped logo and the name after a rose, the flower of love.
I have another bike that could only be thought of as masculine. It's steel too, but with relaxed angles and therefore not so high spirited, with long chainstays for carrying a load over the rear wheel, fenders, 28C tires, wider rims, all in the service of reliability, like a good friend.
The experience of riding the two bikes is the difference between a high spirited adventure with a beautiful woman, and a hike with a trustworthy buddy.
|no; to me, that's silly; they're tools nm||DougSloan|
Nov 17, 2003 10:37 AM
|Nope. Put it up on the stand and looked underneath.||djg|
Nov 17, 2003 10:51 AM
|Nothing there but a bottom bracket shell.
I kind of think it's an inanimate--and sexless, not to mention genderless--piece of equipment.
|re: no gender/name - I just ride it... (nm)||Mike Prince|
Nov 17, 2003 1:37 PM
|You are all right, of course.||Fredrico|
Nov 17, 2003 2:30 PM
|On most days, the bike is just a collection of tubes, shiny components, plastic and rubber. But if it fits you like a fine suit, and on a sunny day, sings a duet with you rolling through gorgeous countryside, can't you give it some credit for conjuring up emotions similar to those when one is in love? And being romantic, isn't it natural to assign gender characteristics to the bike under those circumstances?|
|Mine must be female...||coonass|
Nov 17, 2003 6:51 PM
|when they pulled those custom frames out of the boxes, it was love at first sight; and when I'm cleaning them up, I can't help but think: "Baby, you're absolutely beautiful!"....
Ride to work, work to live and LIVE TO RIDE !!!!!
Nov 17, 2003 6:58 PM
|A worthwhile topic in a majority male board.
I didn't want to bring it up in the past, but I kinda hit a wall the other night. I think it was more the sexual undertones of the post that got me. I hope I didn't offend anyone either, I didn't mean to.
I see both points of view in the naming - can be sexist, or in honor of a women's beauty. Being an anthropologist I tend to examine trends in ways other than what people say they are, and I was leaning towards sexism, but Hawker12 pointed out the other side.
A friend of mine named her Seven bike Geoff (jeff with non-American spelling) and always refers to it as him. I have the same bike and felt unsure of what its name was (we name our rides). I felt like it should be male to oppose the tendency to female, but the name has not yet come to me.
I am now unsure of how I feel about... thank goodness to RBR for its mind opening experiences! Thanks again for reposting.