|Would you buy a new "Retro" Grouppo?||Dave Hickey|
Nov 12, 2003 7:18 AM
|I'm just curious if there's a market for a new retro group. I've watched the insane prices for older Campy components on Ebay. Personally, I'd love a new polished 7-8 speed Record group with downtube shifters and no carbon parts. There is still a market for lugged steel frames.
Just a thought........
|re: absolutely (nm)||Mike Prince|
Nov 12, 2003 7:34 AM
|re: Would you buy a new "Retro" Grouppo?||macalu|
Nov 12, 2003 7:41 AM
|I would. I am still using 8-speed equipment, both Campy and Shimano, and am a believer in its functionality and reliability. I am also still using down-tube shifters: they go on and on without a problem. I don't know that I would pay the prices on ebay I am seeing for some items, but from a reputable commercial supplier--yes, without a doubt.|
|Wow, I can't believe you asked that question...||Marketing Dept|
Nov 12, 2003 7:43 AM
|I have been toying with the idea of finding a company to do just that.
With all of the "are bikes too expensive" discussions, it sounds like many of us forget about the technology that we are riding these days. Today's bikes are not the same as those of the 70's and 80's and you just can't compare them.
So with that in mind, would folks be happy buying a steel cromo frame and fork (7 to 8.5 lbs) with friction shifters (how many people know what that means?) with 32 spoked wheels with wire beaded tires? A new bike for $500 - $700?
I doubt that it would happen. At least not on this board. Perhaps we could find a market on the retro page..
|Wow, I can't believe you asked that question...||Tom C|
Nov 12, 2003 5:19 PM
|I don't know what chro-moly frames you might be referring to but a 7-8.5 lb. frame and fork would have been considered in steels hey-day, a lead pipe. The Rossin Record 55cm frame circa 1982 I passed on to my daughter weighs in at 5 lbs 14 ozs., frame and fork and was not atypical for the era. I might add that some Reynolds 753 frames of the same era were a good 1/2 lb. less.|
|I have been collecting a C-Record grouppo for the past 6 mo.||russw19|
Nov 12, 2003 7:48 AM
|And once I get all the parts I want and need I will put it all on a steel Colnago with a steel fork. There are some insane prices on Ebay, but if you are patient enough, you can find old Record parts pretty cheap on there... the key is being patient and to know when a deal isn't that great and when to walk away.
The big ticket item for my retro bike is going to be hubs. I want 32 hole Campy C-Record Hi Flange hubs. They are hard to find for under $250 a pair, but in my opinion are the absoulte most beautiful hubset ever made. If anyone has a set they want to sell, make me an offer and I will buy them.
|I totally agree on the C-Record hubs||Dave Hickey|
Nov 12, 2003 7:51 AM
|They are works of art....|
|Here's a pic of the track version||Dave Hickey|
Nov 12, 2003 7:57 AM
|Here's a pic of the track version||treebound|
Nov 12, 2003 9:11 AM
|I'm going to have to go home tonight and look at my track bike. Picked up a used Quattro-Assi with full Campy and those hubs in your pic look real familiar. Sweet.
Almost hate to ride the thing, but it's meant to be ridden which is what I plan to do come summer.
|I know where a track bike is with those for 50 bucks(whole bike)||the bull|
Nov 12, 2003 9:52 AM
|Think I might jump on it this week.|
|I've got C-Record hi-flange hubs -- 36 hole.||ElvisMerckx|
Nov 12, 2003 7:58 AM
|They're built up with Mavic GP4 rims -- never glued, hence the hubs are virgin. Waddaya think they're worth?
Also, I've got piles of other C-Record parts just sitting around the garage -- at least 2 full gruppos (minus the brake sets). Perhaps it's time to open my own ebay store.
|Is this Russ from Gainesville?||ss jimbo|
Nov 12, 2003 10:08 AM
This is Jim S. I've got those Delta brakes if you're still interested. Drop me a line,
|Yep! I'm still interested!||russw19|
Nov 12, 2003 11:45 AM
|How's the teaching going? Been riding since the Horsefarm? Now that the weather's nice, I have been riding a lot more than normal, trying to get back into shape finally.
Did you get that 29'r single speed you were talking about yet?
See ya later,
|There is most certainly a market||import silvia|
Nov 12, 2003 7:53 AM
|But you have to use good components, not fake knock-offs.|
Nov 12, 2003 8:32 AM
|Actually, I'm rebuilding my bike as "retro," though only in the sense that it has aero levers and DT shifters. Still Shimano 9s in other respects.
I decided I needed a break from Ergos, as much as I like them. I'm no racer. I'm a recreational rider...do I really NEED that stuff?
If a few months with DT shifters (friction only at the moment--but it's amazing how shiny Exage 7-speed levers get after a little treatment with Simichrome) drives me mad, well, I can always switch back to the Centaur Ergos.
However, as fewer and fewer bikes are coming with DT braze-ons, and "shaped" downtubes don't alloy for clamp-on shifters, enjoy it now. Going this sort of retro may not be easy in a few years, though I would like to applaud Shimano for making both 9- and 10-speed DT levers and bar-cons.
|re: Would you buy a new "Retro" Grouppo?||MShaw|
Nov 12, 2003 10:44 AM
|One of the bikes I've always wanted is a Colnago Master Olympic in blue and gold with Superbe Pro components. So, yes, I'd buy a NOS gruppo if I found one that didn't cost and arm and a leg.
|Yes to all your questions. nm||wspokes|
Nov 12, 2003 10:49 AM
Nov 12, 2003 12:12 PM
|I don't mind riding older stuff, but there's good reason the new stuff ran it out of the market. It's simpler to use and works fine. My next project is a 1980's frame and fork with a double chainring, 9sp mountaing bike gears, bar-end shifters, dual pivot brakes and deep drop Cinelli bars.|
Nov 12, 2003 5:37 PM
|I am collecting 8-speed Record for my old De Bernardi. And you're right. The prices for 8-speed particularly wheelsets are incredible.
And Dave ... Campy components are gruppos, per favore.
In a smart-alecky mood,
|Whatda expect, I'm a Shimano guy:-)||Dave Hickey|
Nov 12, 2003 6:32 PM
|Gruppo not grouppo. oops..............|| |