|What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||Len J|
Nov 10, 2003 10:10 AM
|It's that time of year when some of us are moving to the trainer and the only way to get our bike fix is to think about that next purchase:
What will your next purchase be & why?
Nov 10, 2003 10:18 AM
|I am planing on buying a 5900. Very light, has a great ride and it fits me really well. And new dura ace!!!|
Nov 10, 2003 10:42 AM
|I've ridden an '03 for 12 months or so and I really like it.|
|Very possibly studded tires ...||Humma Hah|
Nov 10, 2003 10:18 AM
|... because I thought MB1 was being silly when he got them last winter, but I'm the one who ended up looking silly.
The other thing on the short list is a BB converter and a set of vintage Campy Pista (track) cranks to upgrade the cruiser from the single-piece crank.
Upgrading the bars, stem, and brake levers on the Paramount to the correct vintage parts will happen soon, too.
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||terry b|
Nov 10, 2003 10:23 AM
|purchased this past weekend - Ritchey seatpost to replace the spawn of the devil USE Alien I have on one bike.
Next - well it will most likely be either a Chorus gruppo or some Shimano pieces and parts. Last week I managed to fulfill a long term lust when I picked up a Colnago in GEO on eBay. (I can't tell how long I've wanted a GEO frame.) Now I have to build it.
Choices are - buy Chorus or tear down a Shimano bike I have (DT shifters though) and build it with DA parts. In that case I need a set of shifters which will therefore be the next purchase.
|F@#$ RITCHEY!||JS Haiku Shop|
Nov 11, 2003 9:18 PM
|ok, so the pro i've used since may has only been slippling a little.
the ritchey comp 'posts spec'd on my surly crosssheck and steamroller (excelsports.com) sucked big time. i petitioned ritchey and they replaced one, after 3 months of emails and calls. sure, a seatpost seems like a small deal and whatever, but it's the principle. went through it all over again for the other one, recently, and no response. solution? thomson. f@#$ ritchey, they're useless. customer service IMHO = GARBAGE. i will spread the word.
|chain and sprocket. maybe bearings. theyre the only parts that go. nm.||Steve_0|
Nov 10, 2003 10:28 AM
|A 48cm Waterford Fixte for Miss M.||MB1|
Nov 10, 2003 10:38 AM
|650C wheels. I'll probably get a Phil rear hub and try to find a superlight front wheel to go with it.
Fairly good parts with a Brooks saddle.
We have signed up for Hell Week in Florida (8 days, 8 centuries) at the end of the year and I would like to have the bike ready by then.
|That oughta break in the saddle pretty well ...||Humma Hah|
Nov 10, 2003 11:16 AM
|800 miles in 8 days, huh? You're making me feel pretty good about buying that Brooks Team Pro from Revolutions on Saturday.
Looks pretty good on the 'Mount.
I was pleased to see they carry some pretty good fixed and SS stuff. Spotted a White Industries ENO freewheel in the case ... high-flange flip flop hubs with lots of spoke holes, too.
|A lot of the riders at the NSA/OCE work/worked for Revolution||MB1|
Nov 10, 2003 11:41 AM
|Scott on the white Waterford managed the shop for a while, Reed on the dark Gunnar is the one who keeps all the fixte/SS parts in stock.
Lots of the folks who work in the shop like to ride fixed.
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||No_sprint|
Nov 10, 2003 10:46 AM
|Another seat because the SLR Evolution has turned out to be absolutely wretched, even for my mostly crit racer. Also, another stem and bar. Had a good crash mid-year. I'm better safe than sorry with the controls.|
Nov 10, 2003 11:10 AM
|1. fixie frame
2. another computer or 2
3. new set of pedals
|I'm in the middle of purchasing||Mel Erickson|
Nov 10, 2003 11:11 AM
|My winter project will be a new (mostly) steel bike. The frame should be arriving any day now, as well as assorted parts to start the project. Why? Because. Because I want a steel frame. Because I want to try Campy. Because I need something to do over the winter so I don't go stark raving mad!|
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||FTMD|
Nov 10, 2003 11:34 AM
|In the past few winters, I've went bananas with new purchases so this winter I've decided to limit myself to a few select purchases.
Moots layback seatpost for my mtb. Really want to see if all the accolades are correct.
New saddle (still deciding which one to try out). Thought I had this issue resolved, but learned otherwise on my first century.
New Time Atak pedals for the cx bike.
Oh, I did just buy my SO a Yakima roof rack for her car, but that's a Christmas present. Doesn't count.
|re: A Frame that fits||jrm|
Nov 10, 2003 11:36 AM
|a stem for frame and a new 28c panaracer tserv tire.|
Nov 10, 2003 11:37 AM
|... frame fork and seatpost... for a winter build project... cuz I've never had a CF bike and wanted something a bit unique.
Alas, the frame has not arrived yet!!!
Be the bike.
Nov 11, 2003 6:04 AM
|Hey, Did you order from Italia- Techno? I would like to know how that goes, I'm in the process of purchasing a Kuota Khan in the next month, and their prices are fantastic.
What are you building yours up with?
Nov 11, 2003 12:12 PM
|... I contacted Kuota directly and they recommended La B...
They're significantly more expensive than Ital-Tecno (also Deeside in the UK) but are alledgely the only authorized US/Canada dealer. They also promised an '04 frame and fork (FSA headset) and Kuota CF seatpost (which is apparently why it's taking so long).
Initially, I considered Ital-Tecno for the purchase but was a bit put off by an odd answer to what I thought was a fairly easy question. When I asked what type of BB, I was told, "Well, it's an Italian bike so I'd say it's Italian" Perhaps it was a new Ital associate or someone not familiar with the product, but a direct email to Kuota confirmed a standard English BB.
Still, I'd like to know how your purchase from Ital goes... whether or not you'd have any warranty issues buying from them from Kuota (I never asked Ital if they were authorized) and what model year frame you're getting (I know the frame has been on the market for about 2 years at least... and have no idea of any changes made in that time). Hell, I may still be in the market for a Khan (funky looks) and Ital's pricing is much better than La B's. This could be a case of where at the end of the day, I take a line from that Mountain Dew commercial that parodies "Davey and Goliath" whereby, after Dad downs a bottle of said that the boys have been arguing over, Davey says "I think we (I) got hosed"...
Be the bike.
Nov 13, 2003 7:11 AM
|Ya, Well when I talked to them he said that he would have to order it from kuota and it would take about 3 weeks, so I would assume that I would be getting a new frame, I don't know though, that is intresting. I will now have to talk to them more, I will be ordering it in about a month, I now have ALL the other parts, but am now also, ALL but broke :). There is alot of mac and cheese ahead of me. I just can't afford the Khan From la bicicletta, So I'm stuck with Itali, Hope it goes well for you. I can't wait for my khan.
I love the looks of it, I think it looks fantastic, I also like the fact that it was Le cycle's bike of the year this year. Have fun with your new bike and post pics :)
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||fracisco|
Nov 10, 2003 11:41 AM
|The new Thompson seatpost, a Fizik saddle (not sure which one), and some 700 x 25 tires.
The seatpost and saddle will be to replace a constantly creaking American Classic and Flite combo. The tires are for winter (read as dirtier, more sharp objects on the road, long slow rides) riding.
|New frame - on order, 1.5 years left to wait!||DMoore|
Nov 10, 2003 11:42 AM
|I ordered a new frame from Brian Baylis 6 months ago. He quoted 2 years, although it'll probably end up taking even longer. He's only making about a half-dozen frames per year these days.
Why? I'm a sucker for lugged steel frames. I have a couple of Al frames for racing (Orbea Lobular carbon, Specialized E-5), but those just don't ring my bell.
I already have a Richard Sachs, a Bill Holland and an older Baylis which I bought used. Having checked out all the top lugged frames (Sachs, Baylis, Columbine, Erickson, Spectrum, Moon, etc.) I'm convinced that Brian's work is second to none. I've wanted a new Baylis for quite some time, and finally decided to go ahead and do it. Brian is going to carve up a set of the new Pacenti lugs for it. The frame (60 cm) will probably be Columbus EL-OS.
Meanwhile, Orbea has announced a new bike for my team. (Amateur, not pro.) Looks like there may be a new Orca Team Jelly Belly bike in my future. It's a full carbon frame, Chorus components. Looks great in pictures, but haven't seen one in person yet. We're having a meeting next week to get the details. If I get one, I'll probably have raced on it for a season and moved on by the time the Baylis arrives.
Some frames are keepers - I expect to keep the Baylis forever!
|Just curious, why Baylis over Moon or Sachs?||Dave Hickey|
Nov 10, 2003 11:51 AM
|What swung you over to Baylis over Moon or Sachs? They are all excellent builders.|
Nov 10, 2003 5:55 PM
|I have a Richard Sachs already, got it in the fall of '98. I have many thousands of happy miles on that bike. I just wanted something a little fancier, a little less commonplace than the RS. Sachs builds bikes his way. Excellent workmanship; unbeatable, but there's a certain stylistic similarity to all his bikes. I know each RS is custom built, but they all *look* pretty much the same.
I've inspected some raw frames by Richard Moon at Baylis' shop, as Brian paints them. As beautiful as the lugwork undeniably is, I saw some construction details (particularly the seatstay/seattube junction) that looked fragile. Brian has also painted for RS in the past, before he introduced JB to RS, so he's extremely knowledgeable about both makers.
Each of Brian's bikes is unique. I'm sure he's never built the same thing twice. That sort of blows my skirt up, to quote one of Brian's favorite phrases. All of the bikes at this level are excellent, of course. I could live happily with a Moon, Columbine, Spectrum, Mooney, etc. I'd love to have one of each.
I went for a ride on my RS with Brian, so he could check out my riding style and fit on the RS for the sake of comparison. He's going to build me a bike with somewhat different geometry, as the RS is *very* laid back.
What finally sold me on getting the Baylis was when I saw JB's personal Holland, with lugwork by Brian. He took a set of Nervex pro lugs (always a good place to start) and turned them into absolute works of art. Actually, I'd be perfectly happy just to mug JB and steal that bike, it's even my size.
Besides, Brian is such an undeniable character that he deserves to be supported! He's utterly devoted to classic bikes, and has given unstintingly of his knowledge in such venues as the CR mail list, framebuilder's forum, Velo Rendezvous, etc.
What could be better - to buy a fantastic bike from someone as knowledgeable as Brian?
|Vanilla fixed/SS frameset...||PdxMark|
Nov 10, 2003 11:53 AM
|Build to begin mid-December after a 6 month wait. Will include lovely stainless steel chainstays & rear derailleur hanger for optional multi-gear set-up.|
Nov 12, 2003 6:58 AM
|Hmmm, small world. I'm on a team in the Columbus, OH area and we've been sponsored by Orbea for two years. Some of us are getting Orcas for this coming season (the rest are getting Lobular Carbons) and I'm one of them. Getting Chorus with the Orbea build kit too. What's the name and location of your team?
FWIW, I agree that Baylis is the at the top of domestic framebuilders, but owning a Weigle I'm pretty partial to Peter's work as well.
|Parts,parts, and more parts||PaulCL|
Nov 10, 2003 11:43 AM
|Since I just built up a new bike, I'm not allowed to buy anymore big stuff.
1. Pedals parts for my campy pro-fit pedals that don't want to hold my cleats anymore
2. Campy brake pads since I noticed last night that they are worn to the point of the cross lines dissappearing
3. New tires (vittoria Corsa CX TT yellow) since I like to keep a new set on hand
Beyond these things, I'll come up with some of the standard stuff (tubes, cliff bars, gel, etc) that Santa can put into my stocking.
|Carbondale coming my way in case my Optimo cracks:) nm||divve|
Nov 10, 2003 11:45 AM
|I can't omagine what the warrantee card will read for that one..||biknben|
Nov 10, 2003 12:21 PM
|Carbondale: This bike is intended to be used at only at the grand tours. It has a life span of three weeks. After which, it should be retired and hung up on the wall. Rider wieght limits is 140 lbs.
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||boyd2|
Nov 10, 2003 11:47 AM
|New saddle (Flite) and Helmet are on the way. I am considering a new jacket and lights as I have found myself on cold dark roads twice in the last week. But most importantly a new wheelset. My very old but very low mileage Mavic/105s did great all year, but I bent both of them on two seperate rides in the past few weeks. I got them true again, but the brake surfaces have bad dings. I will try to straighten them, but even if I do I will religate them to backups.
Now I need to start the long, painful research to find a good, inexpensive 8spd wheelset.
Nov 10, 2003 12:01 PM
|A trainer cause I need my road bike again.
It's a toss up Cyclops Fluid2 or the 1UP USA Trainer. I'm in Canada so the customs/duty on the 1up could kill me.
Nov 10, 2003 2:10 PM
|I baught the Kurt kinetic trainer directly from Kurt Manufacturing. They gave me a great price and was willing to lower the invoice price for those lovely people at Customs Canada. Make sure that they send it USPS not UPS.|
|Probably Rivendell Redwood||Continental|
Nov 10, 2003 12:14 PM
|Because I'm turning into a slow old grouch, and it's about the only non custom that will really fit me.|
|Used road bike for 13 year old son||Straightblock|
Nov 10, 2003 12:41 PM
|He's been riding BMX & low-end mountain bikes, and wants to work on the Boy Scout bicycling merit badge with me in the spring. The final requirement is a 50 mile ride.|
|did my cycling merit badge||BenR|
Nov 10, 2003 6:29 PM
|Was one of my first merit badges ever and man that fifty miler was tough as I wobbled down the road on my mom's early 80s Nishiki! I think I actually ran a bit over the time limit but my grinchy Dad (who happened to be the counselor) counted it, given the course and the fact that I bonked/got heat exhaustion but recovered and finished. Learned about pacing myself and drinking water the hard way.
10 years later, I don't think twice about 50 miles. Be careful, you might create a demon that will soon be able to ride you into the ground and be forever drooling over bikes.
|probly custom fixed gear||DougSloan|
Nov 10, 2003 12:45 PM
|I want to build a light, but retro, fixed gear bike for long distance racing/riding fixed. May go with light steel, unsure of lugs or welded, though, with Campy track components and plain ole 32 spoke clichers. Want to do something different with paint, I'm long from deciding.
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||scipiones|
Nov 10, 2003 12:53 PM
|Mine will be a stock Madone 5.9! Hopefully I will have it soon as I ordered it some time ago? Stock because after what it cost I dont have anything to spend for upgrades:)|
|Long-sleeve team gear and TruVativ Rolleur bars||WrigleyRoadie|
Nov 10, 2003 1:00 PM
|Like some team gear to wear under vests... also, those new Rolleur bars (don't think they're available yet) look pretty fly - and cheap enough to race Cat 5.|
|My X-Mas list includes...||biknben|
Nov 10, 2003 1:18 PM
|-Winter riding shoes
-Studded road tires
Notice a theme here? :-)
|New saddle for a new fixed gear project.||T-Doc|
Nov 10, 2003 1:34 PM
|Vintage Paramount frame...can't decide on something new (Fizik Aliante) or Vintage (Brooks). Problem with latter is bouncing during spin...too flexy...Perhaps a Brooks swift would be better?|
|Tools, because I need more. (nm)||theBreeze|
Nov 10, 2003 1:35 PM
|re: Wheel goodies||Mike Prince|
Nov 10, 2003 1:38 PM
|I'm building up a set of light (and not expensive!) wheels this winter. Thinking of:
Sun M19 tubular rims, 32h
Sapim CX-Ray or DT Revolution spokes
Dura-Ace 9 spd hubs
Not sure of tires yet. I thought of less spokes, but at my weight (200-ish) I feel like that's a bit risky.
The cold will not keep me inside! Perhaps darkness at times, but I will ride outside more than on the trainer this winter!
|Only way to get purchase fix is to think about next ride.||PseuZQ|
Nov 10, 2003 1:57 PM
|Since a) I have a hugh jass car repair expense ahead of me and b) I can ride ALL YEAR ROUND! Commuting in the rain --WooHoo!
If I had to buy something it would probably be a torque wrench or some other tool.
Nov 10, 2003 2:12 PM
|Because it's getting chilly.|
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||innergel|
Nov 10, 2003 2:16 PM
|1. New, more durable wheelset for training - would like to extend the life of the Rolf Vector Pro's, if at all possible. And new wheels are so nice and shiney :-)
2. A mountain bike - supposed to help your bike handling skills considerably. And I can never get dirty enough riding the road bike!
|Just ordered an SLK saddle today ...||HouseMoney|
Nov 10, 2003 2:55 PM
|Why? 'cos neither my Aspide nor the Nitrox that preceded it were comfortable enough.
Chorus crankset/bb will kick-off my upgrade from Centaur 9 to Chorus 10 soon. No reason besides upgrade-itis.
Tacx Flow trainer is on my xmas list.
|Just ordered an Fizic Aliante saddle today ...||noupi|
Nov 10, 2003 3:33 PM
|Cannondale R3000, more...||kevinacohn|
Nov 10, 2003 5:31 PM
|First off, spare me the, "You'll regret getting a Cannondale! Just wait and see!" I'm very happy with my decision, know what I'm getting myself into, and can't wait for the bike to arrive (November 18).
Cannondale R3000 - A big step up from my Specialized Allez Elite 27 I'm currently riding now. Full Dura-Ace 10-speed component group, Mavic Ksyrium wheels, Fi'zi:k Airone saddle... mmm... Oh yeah, and it's matte black. So slick...
Shimano PD-7800 - For the new bike.
Shimano SH-R151 - For the new pedals.
|re: What is your next road bike related purchase & why?||cycleaddict|
Nov 10, 2003 6:24 PM
|Winter project: Super-light build for a '04 Look KG 461 frame.
Need-- 1) Wheels
|Colnago C-50 with '04 Record||rogue_CT1|
Nov 10, 2003 11:38 PM
|No kidding- I just placed my order for a 61 cm C-50 in the PR-AL paint scheme.
Components: 2004 Campy w/carbon cranks
Handlebar & stem: Stella Azzurra carbon bars and Mag Vice Versa stem and a King headset
Pedals: Look CX-6 Ti
Seat: Selle Italia SLR evolution carbon seat and a Colnago carbon post
Wheels: Already have Ksyrium SL's, Zipp 404's and LEW Sydney's so I won't need to buy any wheels right now.
The frame is supposed to arrive in about 90 days- I can't wait!
Why?- That's exactly what my wife asked! Like I told her-I don't have any vices other than bikes and my car. If I didn't spend the money on a bike then I would have spent it on modifing my M3.
|that's exactly what I want||terry b|
Nov 11, 2003 12:00 PM
|PRAL - odd enough to be just the ticket. I can't wait either.|
|i've been avoiding you post for 2 days||JS Haiku Shop|
Nov 11, 2003 9:29 PM
|read to the bottom, Len:
where do i start?
the tt rig?
the climbing rig?
the merckx fixie?
all the wcp tapes?
what will your next purchase be and why?
gas to get to St. Louis to ride with my peeps. that's what's most important.
what will the next significant purchase be and why?
gas to get to VA and ride with you and MB1. coming spring/summer 2004. ya better get 'training. it will be a 600k prep ride on the fixie. please advise MB.
Have you seen the movie Jacob's Ladder?
I feel you are my chiropractor.
You should e-me sometime: cat5tattoo at yahoo dot com.
Peace, and I'm out.
|e-mail sent. nm||Len J|
Nov 12, 2003 8:48 AM