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St. Louis Nov 15 Gathering--final post(15 posts)

St. Louis Nov 15 Gathering--final postJS Haiku Shop
Nov 6, 2003 6:19 AM
let's get the details and RSVPs nailed down this week if possible. i'll be on vacation all next week and will be checking email and RBR sporadically at best.

if any of you guys (Vindicator?) have finalized a cue and are comfortable with the route, either post cue or email i to me today/tomorrow and i'll try to get a map together b/w cue.

I think our final decision for rollout was 10:30--let me know if that is right. and was the wild horse grill the the start location?

thanks all!

re: St. Louis Nov 15 Gathering--final postFTMD
Nov 6, 2003 7:42 AM
I'll be there. Haven't hardly ridden since our MS150 in early September due to burn out and other obligations so I'll need that cue sheet as I roll in otb and solo.
Details so farvindicator
Nov 6, 2003 8:59 AM
Meeting place and post-ride gathering place:

Wild Horse Grill, 101 Chesterfield Towne Center, 63005. "Chesterfield Towne Center" is not a real street, it's a strip mall. The real street in question is Long Road.

Time: Be there by 10:15. Brief course discussion and start of grace period at 10:30. Rollout 10:35.

Course: Right about 50 miles. The course has several what we consider 'round here to be tough hills. Depending on where you're from, they may seem like mountains or molehills. Their steepness is worse than their length. Fun for KOM points, though. After a little bit of busy roads, lights, and rr tracks, the bulk of the course is beautiful, often wooded (it runs along and through a couple of large parks/wildlife refuges, etc.), lightly traveled by car, twisty, fun, etc. You also get to see Six Flags (briefly) if you like to look at roller coasters. Should be great!

Rest stops: There are two gas station/convenience stores along the route, and I've configured the route so that they are approximately at the 1/3 and 2/3 marks. We'll try to all stay together, but we'll definitely re-convene at each of these stops and make sure everyone's together before departing. They have bathrooms, soda fountains, ice, water, gatorade, snacks, etc. Not sure if they carry things like powerbars or gu - I wouldn't count on it. But you can get a snickers if you need it.

More to come in another post.
Details part 2vindicator
Nov 6, 2003 9:15 AM
Driving directions:

From the north, northeast, northwest, south or southeast: Interstate 270 is an "outerbelt" that makes a "C" shape. If you're coming up 55 from Memphis or down 55 from Chicago, you want to get on 270 at the closest leg of the "C" and take it west toward Kansas City. When you hit the middle of the C, that will be Interstate 64/US 40. Go west and follow the "from the east" directions.

From the east:

If you're coming in via I-64 or I-70, once you cross the Mississippi, stay in the lanes for I-64/US40 west. You will go a good 25-30 miles west of the river, through the whole city, to the outlying suburbs. If you cross the Missouri river, you've just missed your exit. Take the Long Road exit, which puts you on Long Road north at the stoplight with Chesterfield Airport Road. Go straight at the light, staying on Long Road. A half mile or so on your right, before you cross the RR tracks, you'll see the Wild Horse Grill.

From the west:

If you're heading east on I-70, when you get to Wentzville take US40 east. After several miles, you'll cross the Missouri River. Take the Chesterfield Airport road exit (which is the first exit after the river) and take Chesterfield Airport Road east to the light at Long Road. Turn right and take Long Road north. A half mile or so on your right, before you cross the RR tracks, you'll see the Wild Horse Grill.


I've got my babysitting locked down, but my oldest may have a soccer playoff game that day. We won't know if or when until late next week. It would be great if someone else local who knows the route could lead if I'm not around, but I think it's likely I'll be there.


I've got the map at home in Microsoft Streets and Trips. Do you have this program? If so, I could just send you the file along with a cue sheet in Excel. Let me know.

Any other details I'm missing?

you = the manJS Haiku Shop
Nov 6, 2003 9:26 AM
I have MS map point. unsure how it works with what you have. however, if you can print your maps to a .pdf file (do you have full version of adobe acrobrat?) you could send them my way along with the excel cue and i can print 'em off and copy front & back. cat5tattoo at yahoo dot com.


Do not have full acrobatvindicator
Nov 6, 2003 10:33 AM
So I'm not sure I can save it as a pdf, but I'll play around and see what I can do.

Do not have full acrobatFTMD
Nov 6, 2003 11:44 AM
If you want to bother, you can download a writer at and get a free trial. Got to pay for a license to do more than a free trial, however.
I am an idiot - PLEASE READ if you're coming to this ridevindicator
Nov 6, 2003 1:32 PM
In my directions, any time I say "Long Road north" what I meant was "Long Road south."

Sorry for the confusion.

hey admin GREGG can we get some RBR thongs?JS Haiku Shop
Nov 6, 2003 9:24 AM
can we get some cool RBR thongs for giveaways at this gathering? i take an XL.

thanks in advance.

Can I ask a stupid question???sigepf94
Nov 6, 2003 11:19 AM
I would like to go on the ride, but I've never been on a group ride before and I don't know if I'll be able to keep up. I've ridden that route before and I usually average between 16 and 18 mph over the entire course. I don't want to hold anyone up. Do you think it would be worth my time?

Nov 6, 2003 11:42 AM
If it's as hilly as I think it is, you're not going to get left behind.
Please join us!vindicator
Nov 6, 2003 12:26 PM
I usually average 17-19 on this route, more in the 17-18 range when solo, so you'll be fine. More like 6 near the top of "Doberman hill."

Maybe we'll also have J give a brief "first group ride" chat before we start. The key there is to make sure everyone's following the same conventions to help avoid crashes (we don't want one guy zigging because that's what his group does while the other guy zags because that's what his group does).
I elect bro Dale for the pre-ride talks nmJS Haiku Shop
Nov 7, 2003 6:13 AM
re: St. Louis Nov 15 Gathering--final post4bykn
Nov 6, 2003 4:57 PM
Thinking about it, but a 3+ hour drive each way for a three hour ride may be a bit much.
i'm 320 miles away. see you there. nmJS Haiku Shop
Nov 7, 2003 6:12 AM