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on a serious note I hope that nobody ever sees what I saw...(20 posts)

on a serious note I hope that nobody ever sees what I saw...abicirider
Nov 6, 2003 5:33 AM
To start with I know alot of NC rbr don't like me thats fine no problem, with that said I'm not repeat not bashing NC or its people in the thread below what I saw yesterday I will never ever get out of my mind and I hope so very very much and pray that nobody ever sees anything like it in their lifetime.
Ok decided to ride early yesterday morning had a busy day ahead, so figured my regular ride starting in troutman, NC out to the 801 hwy into rowan county about a 2.5hr ride.
It was just about school time so the one lane hwy each way (801) had the usally buses stopping for kids for Mt Ulla elementary and Rowan High School. I always stop for school buses when the are loading unloading kids.
Umm I'm going to cut this short due to the vision still to clear in my mind, up ahead in the distance about 1/4mile I see a bus stopped I can see another car coming the opposite way the next thing I hear brakes screeching a car out of control. in the end a 6 year old girl was lying in the highway dead and another girl in very serious shape the car thought they could beat the school buses retracting stop arms but the girls were already crossing the hwy. by the time I got there it was total confussion the most horrible horrible site anyone could ever see, you really have to ask yourself why was a 6 year old taken from her family why???
I'm not putting any judgement on anyone as I'm not the one to do so in this case the driver of the car I latter found out was a 17 year old high school student can you imagine he has to live with this the rest of his life.
Anyways I think I need to really just mellow out for a few days stay off the bike and just really look at my self I wasn't going to post this thread but I need to get it off my chest. again I'm not in this case bashing anyone at all just trying to come to grips with it myself.

Please for those of you who have kids (i do not) hold them love them cherish them beyond believe as you never no at anytime anyone can be taken.

Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!
Ray Still
re: on a serious note I hope that nobody ever sees what I saw...gf99
Nov 6, 2003 5:56 AM
I saw that on the news yesterday. Damn.

The girls' mother acutally witnessed the accident. I can't imagine what her and the rest of the family are going through now.

Another case of someone not taking the task of driving seriously enough like we see all the time.
You never forget something like thatmickey-mac
Nov 6, 2003 8:39 AM
About 20 years ago, a friend and I were riding to work, helmetless. We were passing a junior high school when we saw a young girl on the ground, bleeding from her ears and nose. She had been riding a bike, helmetless, and had been hit by a school bus. I still don't know if she made it, but things didn't look good from my lay perspective. My friend and I didn't say a word to each other all the way to work. The next day I strapped on a helmet for the first time in months and met him at his house for the ride to work. He was wearing his helmet.
Makes me ill just reading about it. nmNatC
Nov 6, 2003 6:00 AM
re: on a serious note I hope that nobody ever sees what I saw...stratoshark
Nov 6, 2003 6:09 AM
Ray, I'm sorry that you had to witness the tragedy. I've never witnessed anything like that, so I can only imagine how you feel. So many lives changed forever because someone could not wait for 30 seconds. The parents of the child must be in agony, as well as the parents of the teenage driver. Yeah, this is beyond my understanding.

Your post makes me think of my kids and the dangers around them. Doesn't start my day off with a smile, but I'm glad you posted it. We need to remember to cherish those around us.
As a parent.................Len J
Nov 6, 2003 6:10 AM
it seems I am contstantly reminded that the difference between my children being safe & unhurt and disaster is much smaller than I would like. Bad things do happen.

Last night I found out that one of my youngest daughters best friends drove their car into a tree killing another friend and seriously wounding the driver. Drinking was involved. How many times did I dodge this particular bullet when I was young? Why did I survive? What do I tell my daughter? How do I comfort her?

For me this experience, as well as your story Ray, reinforces a few simple truths:

1.) The only thing you really have any control over is your own behavior.

2.) Your time here may be shorter than you think. Look around you and notice those who are most important to you. Do they know how important they are to you? Have you told them what you would want them to know if you knew you only had a day to live? Are you clear on what is important to you in this life? Why do we all think we have plenty of time to say the things we need to say, heal the wounds that need healing, hold precious the things that are precious to us?

We may never know why things like this happen, our choice lies in wether or not we will take them as reminders to choose our own priorities wisely or lament that the world isn't fair.

I choose to use the lesson positivly. The alternive is a life of negativity.

Sorry you had to experience this Ray.

Heal well.

Nov 6, 2003 6:39 AM
As a parent of a young children (ages 11,9 & 5) you have just touched on my biggest fear in life. Makes me sick just to read about it. I think I'll give'm an extra hug tonight when I get home.

Ray...keep talking about it. Its' the only way to make yourself come to grips with what you witnessed. Nobody should have to experience or see that. What a waste.

Be safe. Paul
Makes me sick.KG 361
Nov 6, 2003 6:45 AM
I have 2 girls, 9 and 11. I can't imagine how the parents feel. I'm sure you must be really devestated. I watch both of my kids get on th ebus each morning-I'll hold them just a little tighter now.
how awful. Sorry to hear that. ...nmrwbadley
Nov 6, 2003 7:32 AM
I used to drive a school bustazdag
Nov 6, 2003 7:56 AM
It was years ago for a small private school in Potomac MD. My route took me in to DC on Wisconsin. Drivers would routinely ignore the flashing lights, this was before the retracting guards were in use. One morning as I was picking up a little 1st grade girl, my lights flashing, I saw that a car was going to pass me in between the bus and the sidewalk. I started yelling and laid on the horn. Luckily the little girl froze in her tracks as a line of 4 cars blew past the bus, right where she would have walked. The 5th vehicle was a Metro cop on a motorcycle, who of course saw the whole thing. I pointed, he waved and then pulled all 4 cars over. I was so pissed, just fuming. I was just a kid then, may 20 years old, but remember that moment 26 years ago like it was yesterday.
The lack of responsibility of drivers is apalling. There are so many victims in this situation; all will carry that vision with them for the rest of their lives, including you.
I Own a School Bus Company.........Reed Weedakowski
Nov 6, 2003 8:22 AM
With 27 years in the School Bus business I have heard many tales of close calls from my drivers. Your story is tragic. I really don't know what else to say. Be careful out on the road. It can be a dangerous place!
re: a difficult reminderkissthedemon
Nov 6, 2003 8:59 AM
It's unfortunate that it takes an event like this to remind people what life is all about. I have an 8 year old daughter. My friends and family sometimes tell me I am over protective. I probably am. THIS IS WHY! My life would end for all intents and purposes if I had to go through that. It sickens me to even imagine that scene. I walk my daughter across the street holding her hand. We drive her to school. But you know what? That probably doesn't help. There will always be accidents, and you can never cover all possible scenarios.

I'm sorry you had to experience that, but thank you for sharing it, and it is valuable for us all to hear it. My daughter has the day off from school today. I'm going home for lunch now.
It's overly protective. See how you like it.Tom C
Dec 12, 2003 12:53 PM
Thanks for posting this.BigFatSal
Nov 6, 2003 9:02 AM

Thanks. Just this morning I was driving my 2 year-old son to daycare and we saw a school bus. He got all excited about it, telling me how much he wanted to ride a school bus...

When those days come, I'll be extra vigilant thanks to you. Of course we can't control much in this world but we can at least try to minimize the odds of disaster. And communicating about these tragic events can help prevent it from happening to others.
that is so sad... Ray take it easy...marcoxxx
Nov 6, 2003 10:21 AM
do not know what to say. i think often about my teenage son's 3 friends who were killed in a single car speeding accident recently. Fortunately my son was not with them that evening.
The driver did not get a scratch hardly, but he has to live with the fact he killed his own brother and 2 best friends.

NC needs to do something different in licensing teens!!

that is so sad... Ray take it easy...MShaw
Nov 6, 2003 10:47 AM
I don't know that NC needs to do anything differently , but the parents sure do!

Please, <i>Please,</i> PLEASE teach your kids how to drive responsibly!!!! nmBowWow
Nov 6, 2003 10:29 AM
More common than you might think.Spoke Wrench
Nov 6, 2003 11:34 AM
We had the duplicate to that accident last spring in the school district that I drive for - right down to the little girl's mother witnessing the whole event. Our bus driver, who had done nothing wrong, was so upset that she had to take a week off. We revised all of our routes this year so that no elementary kids have to cross any of the busier roads.

For the record, the procedure that is supposed to prevent that kind of accident is for the kid to look for a signal from the bus driver before crossing the road - but they don't always do it. Thanks for the reminder. I have a couple of subdivision stops where the kids don't always watch for my signal. I think that I'll make a point of talking to them about that next Monday.
According to the Charlotte ObserverKenS
Nov 6, 2003 2:03 PM
The 17 year old driver was rushing in order to not be trapped behind the bus and be late to school. I ride and walk both. I am amazed at how many people run a red light rather than have to stop.

Ray, I am sorry that you had to witness such an awful scene.

re: on a serious note I hope that nobody ever sees what I saw...j-son
Nov 6, 2003 2:33 PM

What an awful sight to stumble upon. I'm a police officer and these incidents stay with you ... tragedies involving children (and for some reason, animals) stick with me much longer than horrorific events involving adults.

Two weeks ago, I was sent to a medical call. The dispatchers couldn't decipher from the 911 caller what exactly the situation was ... they were too paniced. I get to the address and find four paniced college guys who were screaming for me to go to the basement bathroom.

The sight I saw when I stepped through that bathroom door will stick with me forever: a screaming young women naked from the waste down with a umbilical cord leading from her to a gray-pale baby. The baby was not moving or crying, and was still covered in her amniotic sack.

The small room was covered in blood and I thought the baby -- obviously just born -- was already dead. I took the baby and ripped the amniotic sqck off of her, exposing her face. And started infant CPR ... a few moments later, she started to cry ... one of the best sounds I've ever heard. I continued to hold her and keep her crying until EMS arrived.

The 'mother' had delivered teh baby alone in teh toilet, and started screaming from the pain. The guys in the house -- the mother's boyfriend's roommates -- called 911 when they heard the screaming. Here's the kicker: as I was saving her baby's life, the mother told me that she wasn't pregnant and the baby was not hers. Despite the fact that the umbilical cord was still attached to both mom and baby.

Happy ending: the baby has since been adopted by a loving family who've been trying to adopt for a few years. Hopefully, she will have a good life, and never here the details of her birth.

So Ray ... you won't forget. And, I think, that's a good thing. The poor little girl deserves to be remembered.