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Why are GrandPrix 3000 twice as much as Ultra 2000? (nm)(15 posts)

Why are GrandPrix 3000 twice as much as Ultra 2000? (nm)Rich_Racer
Nov 4, 2003 4:20 PM
re: because the Ultra 2000 sucks (nm)collinsc
Nov 4, 2003 4:46 PM
Not my experience at allbaylor
Nov 4, 2003 8:11 PM
switched to 'em for Bicycle Tour of Colorado (fear of flats, wanting slower tread wear and decent performance) 3 seasons ago and never went back. 6 pair later, lots 'o miles, good cornering and almost never a flat.

Kudos to the Ultra 2000 from my perspective. Right up there with the GP All Season and Vredestein Fortezza for combining performance and durability.
Why is a Lexus twice as much as a Corolla?Kerry Irons
Nov 4, 2003 5:47 PM
Could it be that the GP3000 uses more expensive materials, is harder to make, has more R&D investment to pay off, is lighter, is more responsive, or has a higher markup. Could it be that more than one of these applies? Why is anything more expensive than something else? Is it really "just a tire" and all tires are the same? Sheesh.
Because they can get it.MR_GRUMPY
Nov 4, 2003 5:49 PM
People don't want "Bread and Butter" tires. They all want the "BEST" to ride around on. $50 tires and $3000 bikes are just part of show for some people who think that it will make them ride like a pro. They think that the 50 grams they save per tire, will make them fly like the wind. About 5% of the people who buy them, race on them. That's what they are for.
it isnt about weight nmcollinsc
Nov 4, 2003 6:28 PM
they do stick to the corners betterColnagoFE
Nov 5, 2003 8:32 AM
Ultra2000s are OK, but for a fast twisty descent I'd pick GP3000s (or event the regular GPs) everytime. They just stick better.
re: Why are GrandPrix 3000 twice as much as Ultra 2000? (nm)R600DuraAce
Nov 4, 2003 8:41 PM
I have ridden both. I tell you why. Ultra 2000 wears out a lot faster. The worst part is that the side wall can crack and causing the seams/thread coming apart. I am ridding and racing a pair of GrandPrix right now. I like the fact that the tire can retain its shape even at lower air pressure.
re: Why are GrandPrix 3000 twice as much as Ultra 2000? (nm)baylor
Nov 4, 2003 8:48 PM
think you've got your tires backwards, my teenage friend.

The Ultra 2000 is a harder rubber than the GP. But I know you've never bothered yourself with the truth, deadbeat liar.
re: Why are GrandPrix 3000 twice as much as Ultra 2000? (nm)R600DuraAce
Nov 4, 2003 8:58 PM
Hahahahaha.........missed your breast feeding???? Come on, mama will feed you now. :-) Ever thought about killing yourself. It will end a lot of pain, you know. If you love your Ultra 2000 so much, I will sell mine to you. I love my Grand Prix so much if this pair wears out I will get the same pair.
Grow up Victor.jtolleson
Nov 5, 2003 9:32 AM
Your poor character is showing.

'Course you splashed it all over the 'net a coupla months ago so go figure. If you didn't notice her contribution to your other thread, she apparently KNOWS the guy you ripped off.

Me, I just think you are an immature twit.

PS -- I generally give the Ultra 2000s a thumbs up, though not as supple as the GPs.
Because the GP 3000 wear out twice as fast. nmbimini
Nov 5, 2003 5:44 AM
yup...just like high end car tires (nm)ColnagoFE
Nov 5, 2003 8:30 AM
Because the GP 3000 wear out twice as fast. nmR600DuraAce
Nov 5, 2003 6:03 PM
I don't know. We'll see about that.
because they are a better tire and they can charge more $ (nm)ColnagoFE
Nov 5, 2003 8:30 AM