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Looking for good bikes with reynolds 853 - prefer Ultegra 3x(10 posts)

Looking for good bikes with reynolds 853 - prefer Ultegra 3xgantt
Nov 4, 2003 9:49 AM
I have been riding a dual suspension for a couple of years - mainly due to a bad lower back. now I want a road bike and all research I have done indicates I will get the best comfortable ride from a Reynolds 853 frame. I tried a LeMond but it seemed too long.
Anyway, I am now looking for a decent deal on a good smooth riding 853 bike. any Ideas? Money is important but not the end all be all. And I do my own work; so I can get something local or shipped in - does not matter.
Ideas?
re: Looking for good bikes with reynolds 853 - prefer Ultegra 3xrussw19
Nov 4, 2003 1:00 PM
Not trying to question you too much here, but did you try the right size Lemond? They measure kinda funny and some people tend to get on one that is one size too big. For example, I ride a 56 in a Cannondale, a 58 in a Colnago, but I ride a 55 Lemond. All three of these bikes are strikingly simaler in size but they are all measured differently. Just a thought...

Anyways, if you want an 853 frame and a good deal, and you have a mountain bike background, check out Interloc's frames. They are super nice and hard to beat for the money. The finish on them is great, but they are only sold as a frameset. But have your local shop check into them and see if they can build one for you. If you are on the east coast, Merry Sales is a distributor. Check with your favorite LBS and see if they have an account with them. If you order the frame from them, they will cut you a deal on the build kit too. You should be able to get one built up with whatever spec's you like for cheaper than the Lemond. Which Lemond did you look at by the way, the Beunos Aires or the Zurich?

If you need any more help with getting an Interloc frame, and you LBS won't help you, let me know and I can get a price quote for you. Drop me a message here and I will send you my email address if you need it.

Russ
You can get a nice Reynolds 853 bike with Ultegra for $1000saldog
Nov 4, 2003 2:09 PM
when i was looking for a road bike; a friend of mine suggest i get this new Reynolds 853 bike that he had bought for about $1000. he said it was real light and had great parts. i didnt go for it as i wanted aluminum. but if you like i can find out what it was exactly.
Check out Jamis (nm)AFred
Nov 4, 2003 2:24 PM
853 Jamis, Fuji, Motobecane, & Mercier made by A-Probikeshopguy
Nov 4, 2003 2:47 PM
One licensed frame shop in Taiwan makes the Reynolds frames for Jamis, Motobecane, Fuji, Mercier (and I think some for Bianchi and others). I am not saying this is a bad thing; as these frames seem clean and the couple I have ridden handled great. But I think it is a point of interest if you are shopping for an 853 framed bike.
Gunnar by Waterfordcrosscut
Nov 4, 2003 4:19 PM
Check out the Gunnar, which is sold as a frameset by most LBSs. Nice ride, plenty stiff, and a product that Waterford stands behind. Comfortable, fast, yet inexpensive. What else could you ask for.
ditto that, last great deal in a great frame. (nm)terry b
Nov 4, 2003 4:48 PM
updated for 2004theBreeze
Nov 5, 2003 6:54 AM
Check out the web site for Gunnar (gunnarbikes.com)

For '04 the tube set uses both 853 and True Temper OX Platinum, which should be great. I have a Kona Explosif mtn bike made of True Temper OX and love it.

I bought my Gunnar built up from a shop in Alameda CA. Check around some smaller shops, especially those that specialize in steel bikes, and you may be able to find one to test ride. If the shop carries Waterfords, they should be able to easily get you a Gunnar.

steel is real...nice
Look Past the TubingHeron Todd
Nov 4, 2003 8:21 PM
If you want a comfortable ride, forget the tubing and look at position on the bike, tire size, and wheelbase. If you don't have a comfortable fit, it won't matter what material the frame is made from. Beyond fit, you need a position which suits you. Most road frames are designed for a low-bar racing position. This suits some riders, but not all. A taller bar might be more comfortable for you depending on the type of riding you are going to do.

A fatter tire will give a smoother ride. Changing tires on a bike can completely change its character. Make sure that you don't get a bike limited to 700x23. Also, a bike with a longer wheelbase (usually accomplished by longer chainstays) will also give you a smoother ride.

Reynolds 853 is a great tubeset, but its main advantage is its strength. This means that a designer can use a thinner-walled tube to save weight while maintaining sufficient strength. However, the fancier alloys like 853 are no stiffer than plain cromoly. So, when you reduce the wall thickness, you reduce the stiffness of the frame.

This makes 853 ideal for racing where riders are relatively light and carry no gear. A heavier rider and/or one who carries gear may find that such a frame flexes too much resulting in high-speed shimmy and awkward handling. In this type of application, you'd want a thicker-walled tube. Such a tube will be plenty strong in regular cromoly making 853 an unnecessary expense (although there are builders making thicker-walled 853 frames).

Remember, you are buying a bicycle, not a tubing decal.

Todd Kuzma
Heron Bicycles
LaSalle, IL
http://www.heronbicycles.com/
I was in the same situationQuadRing
Nov 5, 2003 6:53 AM
I began 2003 flat on my back for almost 6 weeks with a pinched nerve in my lower back ( while being laid off and going on job interviews - but that's another story ).

Anyway, I wanted to get back into road biking after many years off ( age 37 ). I ended up buying one of the Mercier Serpens with 853/full ultegra/Ouzo Comp carbon fork for $1000 ( after landing a job, of course ). I replaced the seat and the handlebars right away with something that fit me better.

I've done fine most of this year but started getting lower back pain again about a month ago. I just changed to a longer stem last week and slid the seat back even more ( I'm 6'1, 185lbs on a 58cm frame and my wingspan is a little over avg for my height ). The first ride with this setup felt considerably better ( no pain at rides end like the week before ).

To sum up, I'm pleased with the bike, but achieving the correct fit for your body will be more critical than the frame tubing in avoiding back pain ( at least that's what I've found ). The new bike doesn't soak up the rough pavement like my old lugged steel bike, but it's 8 pounds lighter and way faster.

Just to inspire you, my 67 year old dad rides a 25 year old schwinn world sport aluminum frame bike. He had back surgery 30 years ago, back still hurts, but he rides 150 miles a week - I hope I'm in as good a shape in another 30 years.

Good luck.