|Anybody else reading/read Lance's new book???||biknben|
Nov 3, 2003 1:07 PM
|I was a huge fan of It's Not About The Bike. I remember I started reading it on a long holiday weekend and just couldn't put it down. I'm not much of a reader but I finished that one quickly. You didn't have to be a cyclist to enjoy it.
I'm about 2/3 of the way through his newest book. It's doesn't seem as well organized. The chapters don't have any focus. It's like endless tangent thoughts organized within a timetable.
Reading the book, while knowing his marriage failed, is strange. They went back to clean stuff up but it's still written as if the marriage is intact. He obviously has issues with leaving his kids for extended periods. Being fatherless as a kid has left some obvious scars. That said, it surprises me they couldn't tough it out for another year, let him retire, then conitnue on. Assuming he retires after next year, he'll have all kinds of time to play dad. If he's able to remain "the closest of friends" with his ex now, why not wait just one year and get things back to normal.
Sorry, just rambling thoughts. It's not easy to read the book each night while checking out his new "girlfriends" here each day.
|I was a little disappointed..||Dave Hickey|
Nov 3, 2003 1:12 PM
|He has too many references to " my best friend" or " my good friend" when mentioning famous people. He does a lot of name dropping in this book.|
|re: Anybody else reading/read Lance's new book???||cyclingforhealth|
Nov 3, 2003 1:14 PM
|I agree, I liked the first book a lot. I think this book is out there just to put perspective in his personal life during the past few months.|
|I looked at it differently||Zman|
Nov 3, 2003 1:56 PM
|I never read the 1st book only the 2nd. It took me only about 4 hours of quality reading.
I really thought he gave some insight on how the peloton works and the little issues in professional biking. His work with Landis was really insightful.
I thought he made it pretty clear early on that he and his wife were having problems, that is what I read. I think religion also is playing a key role in the breakup.
Very devote Christian verse a person who really could care less one way or the other. Unless you have actually went through something like this you have no clue as to how it can rip apart a relationship, no matter how strong.
It is interesting that Lance truly cares about his kids and mentions them all the time. His wife is the one left out of most conversation, that is a tell tale sign of worse things to come.
The book also clearly defines Lance's focus. When he goes for something he gives 100% and nothing gets in his way, he may win or lose but he will always give 100%.
I liked it, but "to each his own".
|I enjoyed it!||Bacco|
Nov 3, 2003 2:33 PM
|I didn't read his first book, so I can't compare. However, I really enjoyed this book. I was surprised that Lance was so candid about his relationship with his team, his wife, his kids, his friends, and his religion (or lack thereof). His comments on Jan Urich and Marco Pantani were interesting.
It's a quick read and I'd recommend it. His thoughts on being a cancer survivor and how those with cancer expect him to give them some the secret of how to be cured was insightful and sad.
|I think you are making a mistake...||lancezneighbor|
Nov 3, 2003 2:35 PM
|in assuming that the breakup is due to his busy lifestyle. Who on this planet couldn't put up with one more year of a hectic lifestyle. Besides, we all have busy lives, he travels, trains hard, and makes appearances, but come on we all have jobs, work overtime, train, have family obligations, school, volunteer work, I doubt there are many slackers on this board. I really think there is something else to the break up, it's none of our business really, but I'm sure it has to be more personal than just he is so busy with his training and international travel. She is Catholic, he doesn't care, he probably has an eye for the ladies... whatever, but it can't be just due to the current lifestyle. Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't allow their spouse to follow an incredible dream, especially when you know that the hard work will all be over in just one more year? I'm not here to speculate on what actually caused the breakup, I'm just stating that I doubt it could be the busy life.|
|re: Anybody else reading/read Lance's new book???||enalkram|
Nov 3, 2003 2:57 PM
|I was also a little under-impressed with the second book. It was still an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't really recommend it to a non-rider. The first book I would recommend to anyone.
Basically, I was happy that I checked it out of the library instead of purchasing it.
|Good, but the first was better||vindicator|
Nov 3, 2003 2:59 PM
|I enjoyed this one, particularly the "on the bike" stuff.
The off the bike stuff just suffers from not being as dramatically life and death as it was the first time around. There's only so much that the "after cancer" stuff can do to compete with the "during cancer" stuff. Can't really blame Lance for that.
Yes, the stuff about the marriage was a bit strange knowing "the ending" but also predicting (correctly) that we don't really get there in the book so the book still ends with "we're working on it."
And double yes, the constant "my close friend," "my good friend" references are more than a little annoying.
But still a solid B+ and an enjoyable and quick read.
|Bobke II and then Lance's new book||fracisco|
Nov 3, 2003 3:08 PM
|I read Bobke 2 and then Every Second Counts, just by the chance that I had checked my current reading book with my luggage when traveling. I thought that the chapters were a little disjointed, but they seemed to follow an overall timeline, rather than tightly related subject. I especially enjoyed the sidebar about Floyd, the reconstruction of the Girona apartment, and the inside look at the team at this most recent tour.
He is obviously very into his children, but not at the expense of his work. But let's face it, if I could get up and have breakfast with my children, go off and ride for 4 - 6 hours, and come home and see my kids, have a nap, have dinner, and see the family, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Granted I don't have any kids nor the fitness to ride for 6 hours, but if I did, it sounds like a great thing.
Get Bobke II. It rocks.
|Bobke II Rules!!!...Some thoughts on Lance...||serbski|
Nov 3, 2003 4:09 PM
|I would have to imagine that living with a person who is as successful/driven as Mr. Armstrong regardless of their chosen field must be pretty grueling to put it mildly. As his first book describes, Lance was unsure as to whether he would ever race professionally again and for his wife to then find herself with a guy going for the TdF victory not once, but, in the end, *five times* certainly must have been a slightly different scenario than that which seemed likely when they met. I also think that Armstrong does not simply ride for a few hours and then get to spend the evening with his family as he undoubtedly pores over the data from his latest training ride, talks to his coaches/team et al at some point and his general mood is probably dictated by his sense of how his pre-Tour prep is coming along (just like the common "honey, I had a sh*tty day at the office" though more personal). Also, one can only imagine that the TdF is *all consuming* and that he has no choice but to be thinking/talking/dreaming about it and of all things related to the Tour every waking moment and then some! His soon-to-be ex seems fairly headstrong and confident and thus unlikely to just sit by for five, six or seven years until her husband is finished with Le Tour and, most likely, she made an issue of this. My guess is that she then became perceived by Mr.A as an impediment to his total focus toward his Tour goals and he may have resented this and let *that* be known. I am only armchair psychologizing (is that a word) here but there are only so many personality types in this world and Lance is definitely a Type A/success driven/fear-of-failure kinda guy and they are simply not easy people with whom to share a life. I hope that all turns out well for the entire Armstrong family...|
|A lot of truth here... nm||Dave Hickey|
Nov 3, 2003 6:01 PM
|I'm in no hurry....||bent_spoke|
Nov 3, 2003 3:45 PM
|I thoroughly enjoyed the first book but I don't have the same enthusiasm, so I'll check it out at the library at some point.|
|One more thing, Lance is a Potty Mouth||cyclingforhealth|
Nov 3, 2003 7:40 PM
|I just feel like some of the language he uses could be avoided. I really hope he doesn't speak that way in front of his kids. There are many out there who admire him, but don't want to have to read the f word every other page.|
|One more thing, Lance is a Potty Mouth||ZenJones|
Nov 4, 2003 8:35 AM
|What the f@@k is wrong with saying f@@k? It's not like saying f@@K makes you a bad f@@king person or anything. I mean, what the f@@k.
Which f@@king reminds me... I haven't seen too many f@@king posts from you lately CFH... how the f@@k are you doing anyway?
|I enjoyed it. Though not as thoroughly as the first.||Frith|
Nov 4, 2003 7:42 AM
|But then again that's an incredibly difficult book to live up to in my book(pun intended). I'm a fairly avid reader and when I picked up "it's not about..." I was pretty skeptical. I really liked that the text read the way it did. It didn't try to be wordy. Also it was really inspiring and I feel an emotional attachment because I've leant that book out to 8 people now (more than any other book i've owned) including my mother who read it in hospital while recovering from a stroke. For this reason the second one didn't have a hope of living up to the first. That said. It was still a great book. Same straightforward writing style, same insight and honesty...less drama. I was happy he decided to cover the ins and outs of tour cycling. He managed to do it without alienating non-cylcing readers. Take it for what it is...a great cyling novel. Not a book you can lend to your mother and know she'll get the same enjoyment you did but great nonetheless.|
|Dont assume he'll retire after 6 why not go for 7? nm||thegarzacomplex|
Nov 4, 2003 12:23 PM