|Chorus to Record..What lift will I see?||deet|
Nov 2, 2003 7:09 AM
|I have a new Seven Odonata Ti coming in at the end of the month and originally spec'd in Chorus but am considering Record (DA on my current bike). Is a move up to Record worth considering?|
|Only in your ego, I suspect. =) nm||KG 361|
Nov 2, 2003 7:24 AM
|Only in your ego, I suspect. =) nm||deet|
Nov 2, 2003 6:55 PM
|less weight, carbon look...||C-40|
Nov 2, 2003 7:27 AM
|Functionally, you will see no difference at all. If you're comparing 2003 groups, then Record has carbon levers, carbon on the rear derailleur and BB and a few Ti pieces to trim the weight a few ounces.
2004 is a bit different story. Now Chorus has the carbon brake levers and carbon on the R/D, plus a new crank to produce much of the Record look. Still a tiny bit heavier, but now much closer to Record. Also about $150-200 higher priced than the 2003 Chorus group.
With 2004 Chorus group, little is gained by going up to Record, but what the heck, it's only money. Record should cost about $350 more than Chorus.
Nov 2, 2003 7:49 AM
|Sure, it says "Record" on it.||djg|
Nov 2, 2003 8:53 AM
|Slight weight savings with Record--very (with as much emphasis as you can muster on "very") similar performance. Close your eyes and you won't know the difference at all. On the other hand, who the heck rides with his eyes closed?|
Nov 2, 2003 10:34 AM
|You can get some 03 Record for an attractive price and probably the same or less than new Chorus. Just did that and have the carbon levers,etc. I have both Record and Chorus on Seven bikes and hard to tell the difference in function.|
Nov 2, 2003 11:34 AM
|I did you one cheaper and bought the '03 Chorus before total cycling ran out.|
Nov 2, 2003 3:00 PM
|I must be the only guy on this board not in lust with carbon fiber. using it to save an ounce or two, but then costing several hundred dollars more as a result, just doesn't appeal to me.
i'm bumming that they don't offer the aluminum parts as an option at a cheaper price, like they have the two different centaur(i think) finishes.
|me too||Keeping up with Junior|
Nov 3, 2003 6:19 AM
|Had planned on waiting a couple of years for a new bike with new components. Have always felt Chorus was a great value and when I saw that Chorus was going carbon in 2004 decided to get the classic look of the 2003 setup this year on closeout. Just seems more durable in the long run. I think I read somewhere that the B teams in Europe were running Chorus rear derailers on their Record equiped bikes because Campy was tired of supplying replacements for the broken carbon RDs.
Besides it seems like the manufacturers are making everything out of carbon now because it is cool and what the consumers are willing to spend money for. Certainly there are valid applications for carbon, but I wonder if the manufacturers are going overboard. In a few years those full carbon bikes will be ready to be outfitted with the classic look of biopace chainrings and other ideas that have come and gone. I may be old, but like to think I have learnd a few things over the years and can now make smart choices.
Nov 2, 2003 4:08 PM
|Yeh, but no CF shifters on the 03 Chorus...|
|Zero in performance. . .A bit lighter wallet (nm)||davidxy|
Nov 2, 2003 3:30 PM
|Record = ultimate performance, Chorus = reliability||bimini|
Nov 3, 2003 7:13 AM
|If you just gotta have the best just because, go with Record.
Or if you are a serious racer and a few grams really do matter then record is a little lighter.
If you want a durable very high quality group go with Chorus. Record sacrifices durability for ultimate weight savings. I would rather have AL wear parts than carbon wear parts.
The quality of both is great.