Oct 31, 2003 8:19 AM
|Campy... Grouppos from hell??
I've always ridden shimano, and i quite like the feel of their grouppos (used to be on downtube indexed 7-speed, a grouppo that had a million miles on it and still worked wonderfully) specially of the ultegra (since i cant afford D/A).
I've had a taste of campy, and i dont like it as much, specially having to exert more pressure in order to downshift.
however a lot of people say that Campy are grouppos from god, and that shimano should be renamed to Sh|tmano or shimaNO. Any reasoning behind this? what do u people riding Campy or Shimano out there think? For my next bike, should i stick to the shimano or give campy a chance?
|If you can afford it, go with Simplex....nm||rwbadley|
Oct 31, 2003 8:21 AM
Oct 31, 2003 8:39 AM
Oct 31, 2003 8:52 AM
|You've just opened up Pandora's Box once again... You never will get everyone to agree on which is best. I for one was a devoted DA Shimano user, then I got a great deal on a 2003 Campy Record grouppo and have not regreated it! They both have their positive and negitive points, but in the end I say get what makes you happy and then go ride.|
|Interesting new transmission twist: Campy or Shimano?||Crankist|
Oct 31, 2003 8:54 AM
|A query here at RBR may turn up some small discussion.|
|The old Campy v. Shimano troll post.||No_sprint|
Oct 31, 2003 8:57 AM
|Overall, since I've had lots of it, DA, Ult, Rec, Chorus, is that it comes down to personal preference. There really is no significant price difference since, if you're thinking about Record or DA, you're likely not going to put it on a 20 year old garage saler.
What I've posted several times before is that Shimmy seemed to be more silky to me while Campy seemed to slam surely in place. My Campy rigs see almost no shop time whatsoever while my DA and Ult rigs saw shop time regularly for adjustments. I broke a DA shifter doing seemingly nothing unusual.
I've finally moved over to Campyonly after years. My personal preference now lies here, home. :)
|not trying to add to the debate||The Human G-Nome|
Oct 31, 2003 9:13 AM
Not defending either gruppos because i strictly ride campy, but i did just snap my Record lever three weeks ago doing nothing special. it's in for warranty right now so this is my first taste of campy warranty service.
|Lies! Lies! LOL j/k nm||No_sprint|
Oct 31, 2003 9:20 AM
Oct 31, 2003 9:40 AM
|Personally, I think both groups have their plusses and minuses, so my "perfect" bike would probably have Ergo shifters, a Record r. der. and everything else Shimano Dura Ace.
Now that you can go online and order stuff overnight, there's less reason not to ride Campy. Useta be that if you had the Campy, and NEEDED parts, you was outta luck. Now, it ain't so bad as long as you do your own maintenence.
I had some Sachs Ergos when Ergos were young. I miss the thumb button...
Mmmmm, 10 speeeeeddddss... (says the guy that thought 7, then 8 speeds were fantastic upgrades!)
|It's not like it's rocket science...||russw19|
Oct 31, 2003 10:17 AM
|Here's the important parts of your post... you tell me, who are you trying to convince to ride what?
"I've always ridden shimano, and i quite like the feel of their grouppos.....I've had a taste of campy, and i dont like it as much,.....For my next bike, should i stick to the shimano or give campy a chance?"
I hope you don't have as hard a time picking between a brown or black belt when wearing jeans as this. Seems to me that your mind is made up. Are you trying to convince the people riding Campy that Shimano is better? If so, that wasn't a very good arguement. But if you are trying to convince yourself to stick with Shimano, I think you did a good job on yourself.
|here we go again||ChazWicked|
Oct 31, 2003 10:31 AM
|I've run shimano ultegra and now I have Campy Record. The key differentiator for me is the fact that you can buy individual pieces and rebuild campy stuff as required. Meanwhile I've heard countless stories of Dura Ace shift/brake mechanisms just dying at complete random JRA. If Campy continues in their approach, I'll never have to throw down for a complete shift/brake combo ever again.
The front shifting has intermediate clicks thus allowing fine tuning so you never hear rubbing up there. Sure a dialed shimano will do the same but I liked building the bike up without spending the extra time tweaking.
Whether one is "crisper" vs another, I think that's mostly a function of clean cables with no kinks or loose end caps & such.
Oct 31, 2003 10:48 AM
|Suntour Cyclone is the only way to go.||jaybird|
Oct 31, 2003 3:59 PM
|My vote is for the new chorus, it now has carbon levers...|
Oct 31, 2003 7:54 PM
|And the new Centaur comes in choice of alum or anodized. It gets better every year and is a bargain in price...I have bikes with Record, Chorus and Centaur, and they are all great. Little difference between Record and Chorus now with the new carbon on Chorus.|
|Yup. An' the gray Centaur looks great!||AJS|
Nov 2, 2003 6:26 AM
|...now it's just a matter of lack of availability, something Campy is notorious for with new product "releases".|
Oct 31, 2003 10:38 PM
|Just stick with the fishing reels and go home.|
|You must of been bored to post this one. nm||bimini|
Nov 3, 2003 7:20 AM