|Decisions Decisions HELP!||TNRyder|
Oct 30, 2003 7:33 PM
|OK, I have decided to go with the Specialized Allez Pro frame for the extra $100.00 to replace my old bike. Then while I am at the shop, one of the tuesday night regulars comes in and we start talking. I tell him about my situation, and he says that he is selling his 'old bike' It's a 2 year old Fuji Team with full Ultegra. The difference in cost is negligible.
So here is todays list of questions
1. How much do you think the Fuji is worth?
2. Used bike with no warrenty, or new frame with lower level components?
3. Has anybody actually ridden both bikes, and if so, what are your thoughts?
The best I will be able to do at first with the Specialized frame is to move over the Tiagra and 105 components and replace the broken stuff with the same level components.
|Ride 'em both - I'd go with the Fuji, esp. if it fits! nm||BowWow|
Oct 30, 2003 7:54 PM
|Ridden them both||dgangi|
Oct 30, 2003 9:25 PM
|I've ridden both the '03 Allez and the '03 Fuji and I liked the Fuji better. In fact, I liked the Fuji Team so much that I purchased one.
I am not sure what model year your associate's Fuji is, but if it is an '02, then it will be very similar to the '03.
The Fuji seems to have a slightly softer ride - more compliant. Yet it is still a stiff frame. At first I thought I liked the compact geometry of the Specialized better, but now that I own the Fuji, I think I like it's more "traditional" geometry better (although it is not perfectly square like a purist would want).
The Fuji Team is a flyweight - my '03 weighs 16.7 pounds for the 54cm. I think the '02 was a tad heavier, but still around 17 pounds. A comparable Specialized Allez (Allez Comp) was about 1 pound heavier, although the Allez Pro (complete bike) should be around the same weight. But if you build up the Pro frame with 105/Tiagra components with heavy wheels, it will be probably in the 19-20 pound range.
Try them both and see which you like better. I personally think the Fuji is a great choice. The Ultegra components are *nice*. But many people are very satisfied with the Specialized Allez.
Lastly, don't worry about the warranty - you're probably not going to use it on either bike. If you buy the Fuji, you will have a used bike with no warranty so you are SOL if anything breaks. If you buy the Specialized, you will have the warranty on the frame only, so you are SOL if any of the parts break. I have never seen anybody require warranty service on a frame. Odds are if anything breaks, it will be a moving part (such as a free hub, bottom bracket, lever, etc) and on either bike the cost of repair will come out of your own pocket.
BTW - I just purchased my '03 Fuji Team on closeout for $995 *new*. Most other shops are still selling that same bike for $1400-$1500. If the guy is selling a used '03, then it is probably worth around $1000 (my case was special in that I got the bike at less than MSRP). If he has an '02, then I would offer $800 or so. If you are located in AZ, TX, or FL, you can get a new Fuji Team at the same place I did - Cycle Spectrum. Or you can get one on-line at bikesdirect.com.
|Go with Specialized...||divve|
Oct 30, 2003 11:05 PM
|Riding a Fuji is like screwing sheep. It feels real good until someone you know actually sees you doing it.|
|Go with Specialized...||Skooter|
Oct 31, 2003 2:03 AM
|That is really funny. How does your huffy ride????
|Go with Specialized... YOU ARE SILLY||collectorvelo|
Oct 31, 2003 3:03 AM
|I think you just wanted to use that stupid sheep line
Fuji is only about 5 times older than Specialized and much better know world wide
I accept that some names like "iron horse" are hard to take
but Fuji is a name any rider can be proud of
|Sounds as if you speak with experience. Bahhhh;-) nm||bimini|
Oct 31, 2003 7:54 AM
|re: Decisions Decisions HELP! EASY - get the deal||collectorvelo|
Oct 31, 2003 3:00 AM
|Most frames today are made by Kinesis or A-Pro - certainly all the Fuji, Specialized, Felt, Motobecane, etc are from those two quality frame makers in Taiwan.
So the style is most important. I hate compact frames - so the specialized would be out -- but maybe you prefer compact
Either way, there are lots of deals on Brand New Ultegra bikes for $1000 -- so you can get online or on ebay a new Ultegra bike with a quality frame within your budget.
remember, ebay sellers and online sites will take offers. So email all the sites and ask for their best deal
|Went with the Specialized||TNRyder|
Oct 31, 2003 7:53 PM
|This was part of the deciding factor. The guy is selling his Fuji because he is buying a new bike. Guess what kind....A Specialized Allez Pro! I find that somewhat interesting. That and I do actually prefer the compact geometry bikes. Guess that it's just the Mountainbiker in me.|| |