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lawyer's tabs poll(32 posts)

lawyer's tabs pollSteve_0
Oct 30, 2003 9:03 AM
anyone here actually still have them?

Amazing how many people I see with 'not-so-quick' releases.
too lazy to file them off...nmDave Hickey
Oct 30, 2003 9:07 AM
Is it really laziness?dzrider
Oct 30, 2003 9:33 AM
Every time I take a wheel off the kids' mountain bikes I swear I'll file the tabs off. By the time the bikes are put away the annoyance is forgotten and it never happens. Spinning the lever around a few times just isn't that big a deal.
I agree. It's never been a problem...nmDave Hickey
Oct 30, 2003 9:35 AM
My bikes are too old to have them...nmwspokes
Oct 30, 2003 9:11 AM
too lazy? I'm too lazy to leave them on! (nm)sievers11
Oct 30, 2003 9:21 AM
re: lawyer's tabs pollFredrico
Oct 30, 2003 9:22 AM
Are you referring to those tabs that prevent the wheel from slipping out of the front dropouts?

So much for "quick" release. What a shame the lawyers, fearful of lawsuits, ruin an otherwise great engineering success, to protect a few ignorant riders who aren't held responsible for the operation of their vehicles.

If I ever end up in possession of such a bike, I'll file off those tabs! Has anyone done this?
Why take 'em off?Dropped
Oct 30, 2003 9:24 AM
If I was racing and needed to save the 2 seconds it takes to twist the skewer and extra couple times in a wheel change, maybe I'd do it.

Otherwise, I've never felt that the tabs were a big deal one way or the other.
Ever remove your front wheel?pmf1
Oct 30, 2003 10:35 AM
To clean the bike, put it in a rack, or in your car? Gets annoying to have to completely unscrew the no-longer quick release everytime.
A tale of three forksMR_GRUMPY
Oct 30, 2003 9:31 AM
#3.....Too old to have them
#2.....Carbon fork with carbon drop outs. Too chicken to file them off.
#1.....Filed them off.
Off like a prom dress!!!!! nmthe bull
Oct 30, 2003 9:31 AM
Removed some of mineDorf411
Oct 30, 2003 9:44 AM
I have removed some of mine in the past but probably won't do it in the future. It worries me to sell a bike that had the tabs removed thinking some fool may end up with this bike and come after me because he was too stupid to properly operate a simple quick release. My Cannondale MTB was great, it had two very small allen screws that I was able to remove to get rid of the tabs. This was on an old one with a pepperoni fork.

leave them onColnagoFE
Oct 30, 2003 9:49 AM
I don't race all that much and the only advantage I can see from filing them off is quicker wheel changes if you happen to get a flat. They also provide a small measure of safety if you forget to close your QR. Only takes a few more seconds to get the wheel out.
I only have handmade steel forksgtx
Oct 30, 2003 9:57 AM
cept on the mtb, and I leave the tabs alone on my suspension fork.
re: lawyer's tabs pollMShaw
Oct 30, 2003 9:59 AM
The thing that amazes me is that these things actually exist in the first place! Then again, this is America, where we don't have to take responsibility for our actions if there's a corporation with deep pockets to sue instead...

I fall into the off 'cause it takes less time and effort camp. Why the heck do I want to have to re-set my QR after ever wheel change if I don't have to?

Of course, if I ever do fall 'cause my QR comes undone, I'm going to blame Shimano for making defective skewers with no written instructions on them. (How's that for a set of instructions: written on the QR lever itself!) Good thing I'm kidding...

I really hope the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with this crap.

Both of my..........Len J
Oct 30, 2003 10:03 AM
current bikes came without them.

Serotta bought last Dec
Gunnar Street Dog with steel fork bought Sept.

No problem for me.

I thought you didn't sweat the small stuff...Fez
Oct 30, 2003 10:16 AM
Interestingly, one new Reynolds Ouzo fork I came across did not have the tabs. 3 other Ouzo forks did. Don't know how to explain it, since I thought all forks had them.
I thought you didn't sweat the small stuff...Steve_0
Oct 30, 2003 11:56 AM
no sweat here...dont really care if people do or not.

thought it would give a little insight into fellow poster's mindsets, while providing relief from yet another post which somehow relates to money.

btw - the ouzo bit is interesting. American destination vs Euro?
There is no reason not to file them offpmf1
Oct 30, 2003 10:32 AM
In the time it takes to tale the wheel off and on once with those stupid, annoying things on your fork, you can file them off. Make life so much easier. No impact on your bike. I really doubt it voids your fork warranty.
All gone. nmNo_sprint
Oct 30, 2003 11:31 AM
my theory, safer without themdesmo
Oct 30, 2003 12:00 PM
not that setting the tension on a Q/R is a big deal but the less screwing around you have to do with it once it's right the better. I rather just open the lever R&R the wheel and close it up, not having to fiddle with the adjustment. even if you don't race why waste time out on the road, especially in a group situation.
What's a Q/R? ;-)Humma Hah
Oct 30, 2003 12:39 PM
The cruiser's totally wrench-dependent for removing wheels.

Now, I do have Q/R's on the front wheel and seat of the ancient Paramount, but no funky tabs.

I think maybe they are on the MTB, but I don't think I've had to have the front wheel off on that in about two years, during which time its probably been ridden maybe 200 miles.
What's a Q/R? ;-)Steve_0
Oct 30, 2003 12:41 PM
founder of the forward geometry; manufacturer of decently-priced triathlon bikes.
re: lawyer's tabs polldave woof
Oct 30, 2003 12:23 PM
oh my god.

I filed em off immediately! and then offa my GF's bike!

aggh. I hate those things.

Rookie question du jour: What the hell's a "lawyer's tab"?? nmgf99
Oct 30, 2003 12:48 PM
Rookie question du jour: What the hell's a "lawyer's tab"?? nmKSC
Oct 30, 2003 12:56 PM
open your quick release on your front wheel and open your front brake. Pull up on your stem. What're keeping your wheel from falling to the ground are the "lawyer's tabs".
Rookie question du jour: What the hell's a "lawyer's tab"?? nmgf99
Oct 30, 2003 1:05 PM
Ahh, so that's why I have to keep loosening till it's well past loose before the wheel comes out. Thx.
Oct 30, 2003 1:09 PM
grind 'em off and you'll never have to loosen it again.

Disclaimer :

I am not an authority on bicycles, bicycle construction, or bicycle safety. And I have no money.
Lawyer lips are little bumpsmhinman
Oct 30, 2003 12:59 PM
They prevent to wheel from coming off it you forget to close your not-so-quick-release skewers. Some of them are just bumps that are easy to take off. Some are recessed cups that require much more careful grinding with a Dremel to get them off. And to answer the question, mine are gone from all my bikes.
re: lawyer's tabs pollAsiago
Oct 30, 2003 1:38 PM
I filed mine off. I load my bikes in the back of my truck. The constant pain of dealing with the QR on the wheel and fork mount finally overcame my patience!

Gone. nmSpunout
Oct 30, 2003 6:07 PM
They're STUPID!Live Steam
Oct 31, 2003 6:37 AM
Has anyone that buys a high end racing frame had the experience of their front wheel falling off? Do we all know how to properly tighten a skewer? I really hate them, but don't want to ruin my fork attempting to remove them. The dropouts on my carbon forks (Reynolds Uzo Pro, Giant Composite, Klein Quantum Pro) are cast. I think grinding the SOBs off would compromise the integrity of the dropout. It might also look like sh!t too. So I suffer with them :O(