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The $100.00 question(12 posts)

The $100.00 questionTNRyder
Oct 29, 2003 8:25 PM
I talked with the owner at my local shop today about replacing the bike that was destroyed going down to the Ride for the Roses. He said that I have two options on the frame and fork.

Option 1

An '04 Allez sport frame with a C2 fork. This would be available to me for less than 1/2 of the original price of the bike. I would still have to purchase the components which were destroyed at retail.

Option 2

For $100.00 more, I can get an '03 Allez Pro frame with a C4 fork and headset (I guess that is the way they have them laying about the place) I would still have to purchase the components destroyed at retail.

I'm thinking for the extra money, this seems to be a pretty good deal, but is there enough of a difference between these two frames to justify the $100.00? My gut says yes, but my limited funds and the uncertainty about how much the insurance will cover say go with the original stuff.

I know it is only $100.00 and many of you guys spend that on shorts, but I am but a poor member of our nations armed forces. So please forgive me for the $100.00 question.
always upgradeSkooter
Oct 29, 2003 10:16 PM
Always upgrade on Bikes, Women and Wiskey.
Scoots 03
never upgradeSteve_0
Oct 30, 2003 5:34 AM
Personally, I'd rather have the 100 bucks. I dont buy into most 'upgrades'

Its one thing if the pro has some specific feature you desire, but not just because its a 'bargain'.

Oh yeah, thanks for serving.
Sometimes upgradeMR_GRUMPY
Oct 30, 2003 6:52 AM
Sorry, I just had to say that.......
Sounds like a good deal to me. Always go with a better frame and fork. Spread that $100 over 5 years.
spend the $100 if you can spare itColnagoFE
Oct 30, 2003 8:13 AM
You'll never regret getting something better and the $100 will be long forgotten soon. If you cheap out you may always regret not getting the better bike when you had the chance.
'better' is subjective.Steve_0
Oct 30, 2003 8:24 AM
as long as the money is long forgotten, i'd rather give it to charity. or a gift for the needy. or a dinner for my wife. or in my daughters piggy bank.


PS - FWIW-- i DO regret having gotten something better. few years back i thought i 'needed' a shiny-new carbon racebike. I now ride it 5 times a year (in races only, and only because i already wasted my money on it).

Much happier with my beat-up-old raleigh. Wish I never bought the new.
you are the exception to the ruleColnagoFE
Oct 30, 2003 8:36 AM
Of course you can waste $ needlessly, but if you are on the fence for an extra $100 I'd say go for it. You only live once.
you only live onceSteve_0
Oct 30, 2003 8:50 AM
agree; exactly why I tend to stretch my dollars to get the most out of life; as opposed to the most out of a single aspect of life.


re: The $100.00 questionGregJ
Oct 30, 2003 8:37 AM
Financial security is way more important than the differences between these 2 bikes. If money is tight, don't upgrade.

I have never bought 100 shorts.
though if $100 will put you in the poorhouseColnagoFE
Oct 30, 2003 12:41 PM
you might not want to buy any bike and spend the money on groceries and rent because money must be REALLY tight.
re: The $100.00 questionorange_julius
Oct 30, 2003 12:20 PM
Seems to me that it's a question of whether the C4 fork
and headset is worth $100 more than the C2 fork without
the headset. The frames are identical. I don't know
the difference between the forks, but how much is a headset
worth? It sounds like the extra $100 is not a bad

Plus, since you had to ask, you will end up wondering how
much better the more expensive one is if you end up buying
the less expensive one :-).

Sorry to hear about your other bike -- what happened to it?
go with the proJS Haiku Shop
Oct 30, 2003 12:29 PM
i'm not sure the exact difference betwen the 04 sport and 03 pro, but i do recall (from my allez days) the sport is bottom of the line frame and the sport is top. this year's forks sport vs pro are carbon bonded vs. monococque, if that means anything to you (i haven't a clue). the pro frame has different lines, different material, and probably the same geometry. if you're considering it, then you can probably afford it, and may have doubts or regrets afterward if you don't get the pro. IMHO.

another thought: if the 03 frame is a year old, try to get a bigger price break on it. you may not be able to, but it's worth a shot. i'm wondering if that's a frame sitting in inventory that just hasn't sold. if so, there may be incentive for the seller (shop?) to move it.

good luck and let us know what you do. include pics if possible. we all love bike p*rn.